Toilet Issue

Dec 2, 1997
8,915
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Boat owners who've never read the installation instructions for their manual toilet never realize that they're missing something very important in their installation: a vented loop in the intake. It needs to be at least 6-8" above waterline AT MAX HEEL, which on most sailboats puts it 2-3 FEET above the bowl. It doesn't go in the intake line between the thru-hull and the pump, it belongs between the pump and the bowl, which requires replacing the short piece of hose used by toilet mfrs with 2 pieces of hose long enough to put it high enough. All manual toilet installation instructions include a drawing showing its location.
A vented loop in the intake does several things that save boat owners from themselves: it breaks the siphon started by pumping and prevents water OUTside the boat from seeking its own level INside the boat via the toilet bowl when the thru-hull is left open and/or the wet/dry lever is left in the wet position. Failure to have the vented loop is the reason your toilet is filling when you aren't aboard and have left the intake thru-hull open...and it's often the reason why boats sink in their slips.

And btw...boatbuilders, who are the WORST sanitation plumbers on the planet, often install the vented loop, but put it under the vanity which renders it useless.

--Peggie
 
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Nov 6, 2006
10,053
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
I agree, Peggie.. but I have read the manual! I knew that at rest with folks in the saloon, the bowl was slightly above the water level..
I never had a problem with the lever position.. since I'd played on boats since I was knee high to a cricket.. But my wife .. had not.. There my have been alcohol involved? I dunno.
 
Jan 19, 2010
1,272
Catalina 34 Casco Bay
I have no idea how to close through hulls, nor where to find them.
Before you do anything else FIND and identify ALL of the thru hulls.. Hoses and their clamps are the weak points of keeping your boat afloat. They should be exercised regularly.. This knowledge can mean the difference between losing your boat, and potentially the lives of those on board. With a 35' boat your should be looking for :

galley sink drain hose and thru hull
head sink(s) drain hose(s) & thru hull(s)
head(s) flush water intake(s) thru hull(s)
engine raw water intake

AT ALL THRU HULLS YOU SHOULD HAVE A DEDICATED PLUG TIED OFF WITH ENOUGH CORD TO ALLOW IT'S USE !!!!
 
Feb 9, 2025
12
hunter legend 35.5 tampa bay
Most of the drains for sink, shower, etc are fed to the bilge.

I have my boat inspected, cleaned, and through hulls checked monthly, is this enough?
 
Jan 7, 2011
5,463
Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
Most of the drains for sink, shower, etc are fed to the bilge.

I have my boat inspected, cleaned, and through hulls checked monthly, is this enough?
Depends on what is involved with the monthly inspection. But the safest thing to do is to close thruhulls if the boat is not going to be used.

I used to leave the 3 below-water thruhulls on my O’Day 322 all summer. I had seen reports of boats that sank due to hose failure, but always said “not going to happen to me”.

One day, I was working under my galley sink and moved the drain hose (that goes to one of the below-water thruhulls).

It was not a pretty sight…


I now closebthru hulls when leave the boat, and open them (or at least the ones I will use) when get back to the boat.

So, you should know where all of the thruhulls and other holes are in your hull. This includes transducers and the like…

Greg
 
May 1, 2011
4,878
Pearson 37 Lusby MD
you should know where all of the thruhulls and other holes are in your hull. This includes transducers and the like…
:plus:
And once you've located each of your through hulls, you should have a wooden bung on a short piece of string by each so you have something to jam in the hole should something part.
 
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Jan 19, 2010
1,272
Catalina 34 Casco Bay
Most of the drains for sink, shower, etc are fed to the bilge.

I have my boat inspected, cleaned, and through hulls checked monthly, is this enough?
If you are having someone else clean and check your thru hulls, this world as long as that person is ALWAYS on board....Otherwise you, as the owner and operator need first hand knowledge..
 
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Dec 2, 1997
8,915
- - LIttle Rock
One day, I was working under my galley sink and moved the drain hose (that goes to one of the below-water thruhulls).
10 years is the max working life for all hoses because rubber and plastics dry out, becoming hard, brittle and prone to cracking and splitting. Old hoses connected to open below-waterline thru-hulls when no one is aboard are a leading cause of boats sinking in their slips. (Toilet flush water intake thru-hulls left open aren't far behind.)

--Peggie
 
Oct 26, 2010
2,110
Hunter 40.5 Beaufort, SC
Most of the drains for sink, shower, etc are fed to the bilge.
@Kraffert I really question this statement for a Hunter Legend 35.5?

While the Legend 40.5 is bigger than the 35.5, many, if not most of the basic systems like sink drains are similar. Both of my sink drains go directly overboard, not to the bilge and have their own thru-hull valve. The aft head sink overboard is below the waterline and the forward head sink drain is just barely above the waterline. My shower drains to a separate shower pan that has its own small bilge pump and does not drain to the bilge. The only thing that drains to the bilge directly are the small drains from the freezer and refrigerator and I cap them off inside the freezer/frig to keep cold air from escaping and deal with any condensation if it occurs.

Check on the idea that your sink drains directly to the bilge and not overboard. Personally I prefer a dry bilge and since the bilge pump can't completely empty the bilge of all water you will be assured of having water in the bilge if your sink drains to the bilge.
 
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Dec 2, 1997
8,915
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Sending sink and shower water into the bilge is a good way to have a stinking bilge because galley sink water is full of food bits and cooking oils and head sink shower water are full of soap scum, body oils, toothpaste etc. It's legal to drain "gray water" (galley, bath and shower water) directly overboard in all US waters and the Great Lakes on both sides of the border, with exception of a very few Inland lakes.

--Peggie
 
Oct 26, 2010
2,110
Hunter 40.5 Beaufort, SC
@Kraffert I have to ask again. Are you sure your sink and shower drain to the bilge? Unless the PO did some major rerouting of drain lines I can't imagine that Hunter build the boat that way. You really need to trace the lines and find the overboard for that sink drain as well as all the overboard thru-hulls. See if there is a small square cabin sole piece with a finger hole in it in the space directly under the sink cabinet.

It would also serve you well to open every cabinet, storage area, covers under the cabin seats, under the aft bed, under the forward V-birth, etc and get to know your boat inside and out. You never know what you'll find. In an ideal world, there should be no place on your boat that can be reached or peeked into that you haven't at least tried to access.

It was nearly a year after I bought my boat that I stumbled onto a spare 3 blade (fixed blade) prop stuffed in a cubby under my aft bed.