I Would Like to remove my Toe Rails and does any one know if I can remove the whole rail at once ? My concern is that the Hull/Deck joint is relying on all these bolts.
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Bill Olah
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Hi Terry, I am compleating an extensive overhall to this great old boat,and will be repairing many top side issues.(compression, delamination and loss of no-skid) Upon compleation I would like a smooth clutter free surface to repaint so I am removing all hardware.
Hi Terry, I am compleating an extensive overhall to this great old boat,and will be repairing many top side issues.(compression, delamination and loss of no-skid) Upon compleation I would like a smooth clutter free surface to repaint so I am removing all hardware.
Screws and bolts.
Bill: As I remember, these hulls are screwed together with wood screws and then they are thru bolted with the toe rail in place. I though that Hunter used a buytl material between the deck and hull joint. So if you are worried about the deck blowing away, it won't. I hope you know what you are getting into when you do this. I think you are going to find that some of these bolts are going to be very difficult to get to. I would check out every bolt before I removed the first one. I is going to be a two person job (plus one person to shuttle brew for the crew).
Bill: As I remember, these hulls are screwed together with wood screws and then they are thru bolted with the toe rail in place. I though that Hunter used a buytl material between the deck and hull joint. So if you are worried about the deck blowing away, it won't. I hope you know what you are getting into when you do this. I think you are going to find that some of these bolts are going to be very difficult to get to. I would check out every bolt before I removed the first one. I is going to be a two person job (plus one person to shuttle brew for the crew).
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Bill, I admire your tenacity to 'do the job right'. I confess I would not go as far as removing the toe rails. I would only point out that I think you will discover that each bolt in the toe rail is bedded with compound. That means a couple of things. First, the bolts will probably require cleaning with a wire wheel unless you intend to replace with new s.s. hardware. Also I don't think it would be a good idea to re-install the bolts without re-bedding them (and using clean hardware). It is possible a leak can develop in that hull deck joint. I discovered this when I replaced my stanchions. I did not re-bed the toe rail bolts and a leak developed in the deck/hull joint. It would be a shame if you re-installed the toe rail without bedding the bolts and discovered leaks galore. Good luck
Bill, I admire your tenacity to 'do the job right'. I confess I would not go as far as removing the toe rails. I would only point out that I think you will discover that each bolt in the toe rail is bedded with compound. That means a couple of things. First, the bolts will probably require cleaning with a wire wheel unless you intend to replace with new s.s. hardware. Also I don't think it would be a good idea to re-install the bolts without re-bedding them (and using clean hardware). It is possible a leak can develop in that hull deck joint. I discovered this when I replaced my stanchions. I did not re-bed the toe rail bolts and a leak developed in the deck/hull joint. It would be a shame if you re-installed the toe rail without bedding the bolts and discovered leaks galore. Good luck
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Terry
Hi Bill, It stands to reason why you want to ...
remove the toe rail, but like Mike indicates, it's a big job. For what you're doing, as long as the joint is still sound and not in need of repair, I would tent the toe rail and other hardware using the blue masking tape and plastic that painters use. Terry
remove the toe rail, but like Mike indicates, it's a big job. For what you're doing, as long as the joint is still sound and not in need of repair, I would tent the toe rail and other hardware using the blue masking tape and plastic that painters use. Terry
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Bill Oah
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Thanks for all your advice! I will be removing the rails. I've gone this far!!! (removed and rebuilt scag and rudder,pealed the bottom, glassed in a new I-beam in the builge as the old one was rusted to paper thin,removed the Yanmar and fuel tank,replaced the rotted out hot water tank.This sounds like a big investment but this boat is a keeper. I'll keep all of you up to date on my progress and of course ask for more advice along the way.
Thanks for all your advice! I will be removing the rails. I've gone this far!!! (removed and rebuilt scag and rudder,pealed the bottom, glassed in a new I-beam in the builge as the old one was rusted to paper thin,removed the Yanmar and fuel tank,replaced the rotted out hot water tank.This sounds like a big investment but this boat is a keeper. I'll keep all of you up to date on my progress and of course ask for more advice along the way.
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