Anybody been here? What a mess! I was thinking of putting in an in-line, bait well pump and dump it into the sink drain? For power, the fresh water pump is right next to the reefer drain and is powered all the time. Has anyone solved this problem?
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Where do you keep your boat?
Bruce, noticed you are from Brunswick. We're just down the road a ways. What year is your boat? What's a reefer drain?
Bruce, noticed you are from Brunswick. We're just down the road a ways. What year is your boat? What's a reefer drain?
I have a separate sump
Hi Bruce. My refer drains into a separate sump which is actually a shower sump. It has a Rule pump and a flapper switch to pump overboard. So it never hits the bilge. It's set up in the bilge and drains into the sump basin for overboard pumping.
Hi Bruce. My refer drains into a separate sump which is actually a shower sump. It has a Rule pump and a flapper switch to pump overboard. So it never hits the bilge. It's set up in the bilge and drains into the sump basin for overboard pumping.
Pump It
Several of us pump it into the sink but in different ways. Some have fixed faucets installed. I have a pump by the hot water heater and run a line under the sink connected to a flexible line (I used the flexible faucet thing people use at sinks that pulls out and you can spray around the sink with). I turn the pump on when it needs to be drain, bring the flxible line up to the sink and hold the handle down until the line is empty. This is obviously a manual solution but it works well. With my first installation, I pumped it directly into the sink drain. The problem with this was the backup from the sink drain would seep into the pump and cause order in the ice box.
Several of us pump it into the sink but in different ways. Some have fixed faucets installed. I have a pump by the hot water heater and run a line under the sink connected to a flexible line (I used the flexible faucet thing people use at sinks that pulls out and you can spray around the sink with). I turn the pump on when it needs to be drain, bring the flxible line up to the sink and hold the handle down until the line is empty. This is obviously a manual solution but it works well. With my first installation, I pumped it directly into the sink drain. The problem with this was the backup from the sink drain would seep into the pump and cause order in the ice box.
Shower Sump Box
I put in a shower sump and ran the A/C drain, shower drain, ice box drain, water heater drain into it and pump it overboard. If there is water in the bilge, I have a leak.
I put in a shower sump and ran the A/C drain, shower drain, ice box drain, water heater drain into it and pump it overboard. If there is water in the bilge, I have a leak.
same here.
Here's one for Daryl. Why does Hunter drain into the bilge? Horrible. I went forward with the drain hose, to the shower sump. My bilge is dry now too. P.S. Jim, nice setup!
Here's one for Daryl. Why does Hunter drain into the bilge? Horrible. I went forward with the drain hose, to the shower sump. My bilge is dry now too. P.S. Jim, nice setup!
Thanks all!
Thanks for all the tips! You too Paul! Good idea on the sprayer, Dennis. I may have figured out a gizmo that will work! I don't have a sump pump and not much room for one either. It seems that a simple, plastic dishwasher adapter for a regular sink fits the sink drain perfectly, and, it's got a 3/4" spur already attached! I've ordered a bait well pump to stick in the line by the HW heater and I already put a switch under the sink. Goodby stinky bilge - I hope! We'll see. Tammy, I keep the boat at Paul's Marina. Where are you? "Reefer" is an antique nautical term for the icebox.
Thanks for all the tips! You too Paul! Good idea on the sprayer, Dennis. I may have figured out a gizmo that will work! I don't have a sump pump and not much room for one either. It seems that a simple, plastic dishwasher adapter for a regular sink fits the sink drain perfectly, and, it's got a 3/4" spur already attached! I've ordered a bait well pump to stick in the line by the HW heater and I already put a switch under the sink. Goodby stinky bilge - I hope! We'll see. Tammy, I keep the boat at Paul's Marina. Where are you? "Reefer" is an antique nautical term for the icebox.
Unfortunately, not in the water
Our boat is stored at Smith's Boat yard. I realized what a reefer drain was when I saw the post about the shower sump. We are in the process of a MAJOR overhaul. The second summer we owned the boat the engine died a very dramatic death just as we were passing Pole Island. We've spent the last two years taking the boat apart and hope to get it put back together this summer and not have too many pieces left over. Hopefully next year when we go back in the water we will be able to get a mooring over at Robinhood.
Our boat is stored at Smith's Boat yard. I realized what a reefer drain was when I saw the post about the shower sump. We are in the process of a MAJOR overhaul. The second summer we owned the boat the engine died a very dramatic death just as we were passing Pole Island. We've spent the last two years taking the boat apart and hope to get it put back together this summer and not have too many pieces left over. Hopefully next year when we go back in the water we will be able to get a mooring over at Robinhood.
Tammy, I asked you this about six
months ago. Maybe you didn't see. Can you tell us about the dramatic death?
months ago. Maybe you didn't see. Can you tell us about the dramatic death?
Fred, Here is the Dramatic Death story
Where do I begin.......We were on our way out for some day sailing off Bailey Island. It was the second summer that we owned the boat. The boatyard where we had a mooring required motoring for anywhere from 45 min to an hour before we could finally put up the sail. So, we are about 10 minutes into our trip and just passing Pole Island, I am at the wheel & hubby is in the cabin. The engine starts to race like I've never heard before and black smoke is pouring out the back end. Hubby yells "Put it in neutral", I do and engine continues to race. Next command is "Shut it off" I try but it won't shut off. So now he is taking the stairs off to get at the engine and doing something. We don't know if what he did stopped the engine of if it just died on it's own but it stopped. So now my leggs feel like spagetti, my heart is my throat and my first thought is to throw out the anchor so that we don't end up on the ledges at the end of Pole Island. Ken goes forward to get the anchor out but before he gets to the locker a powerboater pulls along side and asks if we need help and Ken says that we could use a tow back to the mooring. The tow itself was pretty interesting because the kid driving the boat is sort of meandering back & forth through the channel. I commented to Ken that I hoped our rescuer didn't ground us before he got us back to the mooring. We made it back to the mooring & had a good stiff drink. That's the story ! P.S. Boatyard says Yanmar Dead. Moved boat to different boatyard (that's another story), replaced engine with Westerbeke, 18hp (I think) Decided to re-do whole damn boat. Everything that could be taken apart & off is off. Took some pictures of the demolition so that we could show before/after on the Photo Forum.
Where do I begin.......We were on our way out for some day sailing off Bailey Island. It was the second summer that we owned the boat. The boatyard where we had a mooring required motoring for anywhere from 45 min to an hour before we could finally put up the sail. So, we are about 10 minutes into our trip and just passing Pole Island, I am at the wheel & hubby is in the cabin. The engine starts to race like I've never heard before and black smoke is pouring out the back end. Hubby yells "Put it in neutral", I do and engine continues to race. Next command is "Shut it off" I try but it won't shut off. So now he is taking the stairs off to get at the engine and doing something. We don't know if what he did stopped the engine of if it just died on it's own but it stopped. So now my leggs feel like spagetti, my heart is my throat and my first thought is to throw out the anchor so that we don't end up on the ledges at the end of Pole Island. Ken goes forward to get the anchor out but before he gets to the locker a powerboater pulls along side and asks if we need help and Ken says that we could use a tow back to the mooring. The tow itself was pretty interesting because the kid driving the boat is sort of meandering back & forth through the channel. I commented to Ken that I hoped our rescuer didn't ground us before he got us back to the mooring. We made it back to the mooring & had a good stiff drink. That's the story ! P.S. Boatyard says Yanmar Dead. Moved boat to different boatyard (that's another story), replaced engine with Westerbeke, 18hp (I think) Decided to re-do whole damn boat. Everything that could be taken apart & off is off. Took some pictures of the demolition so that we could show before/after on the Photo Forum.
Sound like "runaway" diesel
"Runaway" can happen when there's too much oil in the crankcase and oil pressure exceeds normal operation pressure. I which case the additional oil is pulled into the cylinder chambers and burns as fuel would. The engine "runs away" and races and has not control via fuel shut off.
"Runaway" can happen when there's too much oil in the crankcase and oil pressure exceeds normal operation pressure. I which case the additional oil is pulled into the cylinder chambers and burns as fuel would. The engine "runs away" and races and has not control via fuel shut off.
Easy to Stop Runaway
The main cause for a runaway engine is too much fuel. This can be caused by a pinched return fuel line, sludge buildup in the fuel return line (sorta like clogged arteries), too much pressure in the fuel supply line, and the like. Pulling the "shutoff" basically won't stop a runaway or if it does, not in a reasonable time. Watching all that black smoke billowing out is enough to give anyone a heart attack. The best, fastest, and easiest way to stop a runaway is to put a shoe or sandle over the air cleaner intake. That'll do it nice an easy.
The main cause for a runaway engine is too much fuel. This can be caused by a pinched return fuel line, sludge buildup in the fuel return line (sorta like clogged arteries), too much pressure in the fuel supply line, and the like. Pulling the "shutoff" basically won't stop a runaway or if it does, not in a reasonable time. Watching all that black smoke billowing out is enough to give anyone a heart attack. The best, fastest, and easiest way to stop a runaway is to put a shoe or sandle over the air cleaner intake. That'll do it nice an easy.
Cool!
This is neat. We start out talking about smelly bilges and end up with runaway diesels! What a country! Z
This is neat. We start out talking about smelly bilges and end up with runaway diesels! What a country! Z
Run away engine
Paul & John, you both mention run away diesel and it's funny because Ken had been talking about reading about that subject not long before the Yanmar died. I think that when he took the stairs off to get at the engine he was pulling on some cable... All I know is that the black smoke stopped and so did the engine. No big loss, other than to Ken's wallet *yks. As far as we know the engine had already been rebuilt once & we were underpowered. The Westerbeke isn't raw-water cooled, so we aren't going to have the problems associated with cold salt water cooling the engine. I know just enough to get me into trouble. ;D
Paul & John, you both mention run away diesel and it's funny because Ken had been talking about reading about that subject not long before the Yanmar died. I think that when he took the stairs off to get at the engine he was pulling on some cable... All I know is that the black smoke stopped and so did the engine. No big loss, other than to Ken's wallet *yks. As far as we know the engine had already been rebuilt once & we were underpowered. The Westerbeke isn't raw-water cooled, so we aren't going to have the problems associated with cold salt water cooling the engine. I know just enough to get me into trouble. ;D
Smith Boat yard
Bruce, Stop by sometime & have a look at the boat that I talked my husband taking apart *yks. She's going to be a beauty when we're done with her. (Don Casey made me do it)
Bruce, Stop by sometime & have a look at the boat that I talked my husband taking apart *yks. She's going to be a beauty when we're done with her. (Don Casey made me do it)
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