There seems to be a problem with www.Finesailing.com web site as of yesterday. As an alternate, let's go to WWW.FIRETALK.COM, and try this site. You need to go in a little early and download their software, it will take a little time. Once you have it loaded, click on the forum button (lower left with therr people on it), and then choose the "Games Hobbies and Sports." I will have a forum set up here named "Oday Owners" by 9:00 Central Time. Sorry if there was any confusion and hope to see you there tonight. Ben Allen Montgomery, AL "Wahoo" OD 26