Thru-Hulls, Sea Cocks and deck leaks

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vega1860

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Apr 28, 2000
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As most of you know, Lealea spends most of her time tied up in her
slip. Recently though, we sailed her to Nawiliwili, Kauai, then around
to Hanalei and back to Honolulu for a total of six days at sea.
Conditions were mild for the most part; winds were either nil or 15 to
about 20 kts and seas 3 to 4 ft. When we got back home and settled
back into our slip I noticed evidence of small leaks around the deck
seam, apparently from the bolts that hold the deck-hull joint
together. Any of you have any experience with this or any advice as
to how to deal with it? The leaks are very minor but annoying
nonetheless.

We have scheduled a haul-out for Friday and I intend to finally
replace the original gate-valves and thru-hulls for proper ball valve
sea cocks. I have yet to decide whether to use bronze or marelon,
though the yard manager recommends bronze (Probably because they don't
have marelon in stock). Any advice from the group?

Aloha,

Chuck Rose
SV Lealea, V1860
Honolulu
 
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ggs382

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Aug 28, 2000
11
Hi Chuck,

I thought I had the same problem in the forward coat locker. Water on
the bolt ends, damp bulkhead liner etc. Turned out to be water running
from the mast step down the headliner. New tape around the mast-step
fixed problem.

Have a nice day,
Gene Suess
Suess Retail Systems Inc. "SRS"
E-MAIL: genes@...
PHONE: 1-250-382-4431 - FAX: 1-250-382-4451
SALES & SERVICE: 611 DUNEDIN ST., VICTORIA, B.C. V8T 2L7
"SRS" SUPERIOR RETAIL SYSTEMS
 
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vega1860

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Apr 28, 2000
691
Thanks Gene, I'll check that out by running a hose along the forward deck seam. But- I have drips from all but three of the deck screws on both sides all the way forward to the chain locker and in the main cabin aft to the galley on the port side on three more screws.

Chuck

"Gene Suess" genes@... wrote:
 
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moondance5003

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Nov 8, 2003
166
Hi Chuck,

I'm pulling Moondance out in the spring to do several changes and
replacing the old gate valves is one of them. I toiled and pondered
the same question as to use marlon or bronze. I priced them both and
found that here localy that bronze is only a few dollars more and
supposedly will stand up to freezing weather better. I know that may
not be a problem where you're at but who knows where one may end up
traveling to. Let me know how it goes.

Robert
 
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vega1860

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Apr 28, 2000
691
No, no pictures. Could use more details too.

BTW if you are going to email pics, its better to send them to crose@... as netscape frequently drops attachments and I have a bandwidth limit here.

Chuck

"moondance5003" guillory@... wrote:
 
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theluckyfrogannandaleva

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Aug 9, 2000
55
Hi Chuck, this is Dan, we sailed together out there in 2001 i think it was,
wife (Linda) and i were out there for a small business trip/vacation.
anyways, we have purchased a 38' custom built steel boat and are in the process of
moving aboard and going sailing for a few years. In the process i have been
reading quite a bit on boats and prob. the best repair i have seen for the hull
to deck joint was done by Hal Roth and detailed in his book "How to Sail
Around the World". On his Spencer 35, Whisper, he cleaned out and filled 150
bold holes with thickened polyester resin. Then forced amixture of sawdust and
resin into the hull to deck crack. Next he took a disk grinder and using a
plywood template, cut a 1/2 inch radius along the top outside corner of the hull
molding to make a softer edge for a fiberglass overlay. After roughing up
the hull-to-deck joint area with the grinder, he laid a strip of 10 ounce
fiberglass cloth 1/2inch wide, over the joint. Followed this with a second strip 1
inch wide then 2, 4 and so on up to 8 inches. filled can tapered the
outside and smoothed it with a grinder. Then laid fiberglass on the inside joint.

This whole project sounds like a lot of fun, but sure would make the joint
that much stronger. Would consider doing this if i were to take a Vega offshore.dan
theluckyfrog@...
 
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vedel173210

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Oct 30, 2019
27
Hi Chuck,

I had a similar problem with my Vega. We (my wife and I) unscrewed the bolts, put some white "Sicaflex" underneath and thightened the bolts again. Still OK after two years.
Good luck,

Flor OYEN
sv Mohana V-566

vega1860@... schreef:
 
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moondance5003

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Nov 8, 2003
166
Well I was just wondering. My pictures were lost. (Digital, and the
batteries went dead). Others in the group took some good pics and
thought you may have gotten them by now. I'll ask around Chuck.
Robert
 
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vega1860

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Apr 28, 2000
691
Hi Dan,

Certainly I remember. We sailed to the sandbar on Kaneohe Bay with Al Anderson on his Vega 1079 "Koloa". That job sure does sound like fun! I seem to remember reading about it some time ago. Don't think I have the time for it right now.

Aloha,

Chuck
theluckyfrog@... wrote:
 
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vega1860

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Apr 28, 2000
691
Thanks,

Sounds easier than Dan's suggestion, if less permanent.

Chuck

Oyen Floribert flor.oyen@... wrote:
 
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vega1860

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Apr 28, 2000
691
Thanks, I appreciate it. Rendezvous coverage with photos is great for the newsletter. People really enjoy reading about the gatherings and seeing photos of all the other boats.

Aloha,

Chuck

"moondance5003" guillory@... wrote:
 
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moondance5003

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Nov 8, 2003
166
Chuck,
I found a book I had about deck leaks. It's "Sailboat Hull and Deck
Repair" by Don Casey. Plenty of good drawings and how to do all
sorts of repairs. On hull to deck joints he states that most older
boats used an oil based mastic that eventually dries out and
shrinks, causing leaks. Looks like taking the joint apart and
cleaning it properly is the biggist chore. After that a bead of 5200
both inside and outside of the bolt holes in a continuos bead for
the length of the joint will do the trick. HOWEVER he suggests that
repairing it using fiberglass is preferable and should last about 20
years.
Good luck.
Robert
 
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