Thru Hull Fittings

Mar 27, 2002
139
I am planning on having my Vega pulled out of the water and parked
so I can remove 2 Thru Hull fittings under the Marine Head on the
Starboard side forward. Can any of you suggest the best way to
remove them? Thanks. David.fuchs@...
 
Oct 30, 2019
119
Hi, Davy,
When I do this, I plan to bring along a 12" or so piece if 1/2"
allthread rod, hex nuts and fender washers. You can assemble a
puller with a couple of 2x4's with 9/16" holes thru, and some 2x4
blocks on the outboard side. Poke the rod thru the hull fitting, nut
on a small block inside, nut on a longer piece of 2x4 outside, and
support it below the hull fitting, bridging the hole with blocks,and
maybe padding between them and the hull. Pull the fitting by turning
the nut on the outside. Stop the rod from spinning with visegrips
inside, or nutting both sides of the inner block.

How does that sound?

Regards, Doug, #712
 

mocap1

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Oct 31, 2019
96
That assumes you can get the nut off the thru-hull. If you can't, you might think about grinding the flange off the outside of the fitting.

MLC
 
Nov 8, 2001
1,818
Hi

I agree
the grinder is the best and quiclkest way. Must be used carefully but I have
doine many this way and always works. The sink and toilet outlets are the ones
that stick and usually have to be rtemoved with the grinder. Take off the lips
then push inwards.

Sailing season finished for the year as I have torn my knee cartlidge and will
have an operation next week. Hope to be up and about in 4-6 weeks. Surgeaon
promised I can be up and playing golf in 6 weeks which is amazing as I have
never played golf before!!

kind Regards

Steve B
At 16:07 10/09/03 -0700, you wrote:
 
Feb 6, 2011
253
David,

Having gone through this, here is my experience.

I bought a pipe wrench to remove the valves and thru-hull nuts. You can borrow the wrench if you like. I haven't used it since. I got all the valves off the thru-hulls except under the sink. There was no way that I could get the pipe under the sink without completely dismantling the boat cabinetry. When I applied wrench to engine cooling valve, it snapped right off along with the nut. I was able to knock the thru-hull out. It turned out to be the easiest one to remove.

So, of the five thru-hulls, I had one completely removed, one with the valve stuck on it, and three with nuts. The nuts came off two of them easily (sorry I don't recall which ones.) The nut on the third wasn't going to move not matter how hard I beat on it with that wrench. I believe it was one of the toilet ones.

I used the wood blocking with nut and bolt method to pull the two thru-hulls out of the hull where the nuts were removed. The old thru-hulls were installed with some pretty tough adhesive. There was quite a bit of gel coat cracking and splintering, around the hole, during the removal process. It was not a fun moment. Almost cracked a tooth from gritting them so hard.

This left the thru-hull/nut/valve under the sink and one other thru-hull/nut. It was about this time that the grinder method was bought up. I was able to beg/borrow an angle grinder from a friend. The theory was to cut the mushroom head off the outside and knock the thru-hull inside the boat. So I first tackled the sink thru-hull/nut/valve combo. Grinding was not as bad as I had imagined. It was done fairly quickly. I started to wish I had done this with all of them. However, the thru-hull/valve proved impervious to theory. No matter how hard I strained, grunted, cursed, and hammered, it would not come out. Since the valve was still stuck on it, I couldn't use the block/nut/bolt method on either side. So biting the bullet, I pulled my arms out of joint (not really :), and VERY CAREFULLY inserted the angle grinder under the sink. I was able to cut the valve off without severing any digits. I did not find that there was enough room under the sink to use the block/bolt/nut method on the inside. So I used the grinder on the nut. It was not fun and I ended up cutting into the fiber glass a small bit due to not keeping the grinder disk level with the hull under the sink (do mostly to not being able to see inside, very well, with my arms in the way). I was able to use the block/bolt/nut to remove the remaining piece from the outside. However, I had to make a trip to the hardware store to find a washer that was just slightly smaller than the outside diameter of the thru-hull, in order to pull it out.

The last one was easier. I ground of the outside head, then used the block/bolt/nut on the inside to remove it.

Lessons Learned: No matter what method you use, if the thru-hull don't want to come out, it will be a pain in the privates. If I was going to do it again, I think I would start with the grind method. If you are lucky, the adhesive will be weak enough that you can pull (or poke) the whole mess, thru-hull/nut/valve, from inside. Then do valve removal, on the ones that won't budge, and use block/bolt/nut to extract from inside, if feasible. Otherwise, try to remove the nut and pull outside.

Chris
V-2933 Renee
Chesapeake Bay, USA
 
May 30, 2000
45
Hi Steve:

Hope this will be arthroscopic surgery and that you mend back to 100%.

Kind regards................Jim

Stephen Birch steve@... wrote:
Hi

I agree
the grinder is the best and quiclkest way. Must be used carefully but I have
doine many this way and always works. The sink and toilet outlets are the ones
that stick and usually have to be rtemoved with the grinder. Take off the lips
then push inwards.

Sailing season finished for the year as I have torn my knee cartlidge and will
have an operation next week. Hope to be up and about in 4-6 weeks. Surgeaon
promised I can be up and playing golf in 6 weeks which is amazing as I have
never played golf before!!

kind Regards

Steve B
At 16:07 10/09/03 -0700, you wrote:
 
Nov 8, 2001
1,818
Hi Jim

Yes it will be arthroscopy and the surgeon is supposed to be one of the
best in the country. He is quite confident but then he would be! I'll
let you know how it goes.

See ya and thanks

Steve Birch
 
May 30, 2000
45
Steve ...Hope it goes well. If he is as good as claimed and you had an MRI performed before (and hopefully they do one after you heal as well) you will be better than new. Why not tell him you don't do golf but you are hoping to run a 26 km marathon with his help. !!! :) Take care...let us know...Jim


PS:
Speaking of letting us know, I hope Ed Sayler's injection pump remedy has his Vega out of the harbor again. Has anyone heard? JIm
Steve Birch steve@... wrote:
Hi Jim

Yes it will be arthroscopy and the surgeon is supposed to be one of the
best in the country. He is quite confident but then he would be! I'll
let you know how it goes.

See ya and thanks

Steve Birch
 
Jul 24, 2002
149
Dear Steve,

I'm sure to speak for all Vegatarians to wish you all the best, good
luck with the operation, and so sorry to hear that you won't be sailing
anymore this year (couldn't there be a nice day in early November? I
guess I'm just too much "coddled" by the Fall weather in Virginia).

To all the people asking about and replying to the thru hull question:
It seems to me there must be by now literally 100s of messages on this
group covering everything from removing thru hulls, what the best new
ones (and sea cocks) are to install, how to do that, which ones are
really needed etc... it would be great if somebody really knowledgable
(with experience in these things) could summarize these messages into a
small "what you need to know about thru hulls" manuals (easy for me to
say - I'm a klutz with little experience, so I definitely wouldn't be
the right person to do it. Of course, there is always the "search by
keyword" feature...

- Sebastian
 
Nov 8, 2001
1,818
Hi All

I will be happy to do some more editorial when I get back from the
operation as I will have my leg up for a couple of weeks. Just need the
items collated and I will make into a Technical Booklet, maybe add it to
the Vega Technical Notes as well. If anyone couild collate the necessary
then I will do the rest. Thanks for your thoughts about the knee op. I
hope to up and working by November so will be trying to get some winter
sailing in other people's Vegas in the UK, plenty of offers but keep
them coming in, don't like cold, wet or too windy so please arrange the
weather first - Also like red wine, food and not too much work!

Regards to all

Steve B
 
May 1, 2007
127
Dear Sebastian,

In reply to your question. Yes I have a problem as well with thru hull
fittings.

Precisely its the sea cock thats take care of the effluent from the
toilet.
Before everyone starts pretesting:

1. In Holland its still permitted to use the toilet in open water.

2. We never use the toilet whilst our Vega is being moored in a yachting
harbour somewhere
on the IJsselmeer.

3. Lately , during a long trip of 8 hours we had to use it, and by jove the
thing got stuck.
I repaired it in our Yachting harbour Naarden, but it did not pump the
water out.
The local repair mechanics repaired it, it worked for 10 seconds and got
stuck again.
This morning we took Le Cygne by crane out of the water , the mechanics
are replacing the sea cock.
It would not risk such a delicate job.
I am afraind that does not help you a great deal.

Happy sailing after the repair,

Henk Jansen
V. 1687.