Throwing Dock Lines

Jan 22, 2008
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Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
My sailing club (SOS) has a yearly event where we use expired flares, fire extinguishers to put out real fires, and to practice line tossing. We have a cross made of 2 x 4s to act as the receiving person. Ground marks at 20/30/40 feet. A couple different sizes/lengths of rope are used.
 

SFS

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Aug 18, 2015
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Currently Boatless Okinawa
That is a GREAT idea! I'll mention it to my club officers.
 

DougM

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Jul 24, 2005
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Beneteau 323 Manistee, MI
I was taught that in situations where I had to toss a line to have coils in both hands and in a manner that the line would uncoil naturally as it fed out. I have seen a lot of instances where a "backward" coil tangled on itself on the way out an splashed. Always toss past the dock hand not directly at him or her.
Normally, with a midship cleat, its not difficult at all to catch a dock cleat or a piling. The trick is to be nearly stopped. Many people tend to be moving too fast on approach and are in a near panic so to speak rushing to get to boat stopped with a dock line before hitting something. Done right with a reasonable dock height the skipper can put a line around a cleat or piling without leaving the cockpit letting the boat ease itself into position.
 
Dec 29, 2008
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Treworgy 65' LOA Custom Steel Pilothouse Staysail Ketch St. Croix, Virgin Islands
The trick is to be nearly stopped. Many people tend to be moving too fast on approach and are in a near panic so to speak rushing to get to boat stopped with a dock line before hitting something.
Exactly...

I would never rely on a cleat to stop the momentum of the vessel! I would make the assumption that the cleat would get pulled out of the dock and then there is one cleat left to work with - and you are still moving! IMHO, cleats are for tying off to when you are docked, to keep the vessel at the dock.
 
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drdanj

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Jun 15, 2009
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Hunter 290 Channel Islands
sure are a lot of "shoulds" in this thread! As if life and everyone in it is perfect and nothing ever goes wrong or any systems ever fail!
 
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jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Understand this post has been about throwing a line to the dock. Seems that if you pilot your boat so the line does not need to be thrown you will limit the damage. I saw this technique of boat handling and once I worked out the kinks has become my preference of tools in docking procedures. Especially when I'm short handed.


When there is a cleat it's quick easy and safe even with wind and currents. Key for me was getting a spot at the mid section to attach the line and a location in the aft quarter to be the location to bring along side the dock. Note the location near the aft quarter will be the stopping point for forward movement. The line and the tie points form a right angle triangle, with the cleat and the tie point on your boat being the base and the centerline of your boat being the height of the triangle. It's a cool concept.
 
Jun 11, 2011
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Hunter 41 Lewes
JS that's exactly how the admiral and I do it, good video. I usually dock stern in and she lasos from the bow but thats the video to my original response.
 

SFS

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Aug 18, 2015
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Wow, that was weird. Clicked on the Vimeo link, and the page opened in a new tab, the title of which is "SFS Getting on - Stern Bridle". My first thought was "security breach on my computer', as I had a birthday in the past few days. Second thought, before the page loaded was "is this going to be some sort of porn?". Then the page opens with "SFS" in big letters. Let's just say it was a very disorienting 10 seconds.:eek:

Good video though, and I look forward to the whole series.
 
Jul 7, 2004
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Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
I think if you tie a beer to the end of the dock line first, you shouldn't get any complaints from dock hands ;)
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Justin great idea. Kind of like chumming for dock hands.
 

Bob S

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Sep 27, 2007
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Beneteau 393 New Bedford, MA
Great video John. They must be European cleats, they sure are taller than the ones I've seen.
 
Mar 26, 2011
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Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
sure are a lot of "shoulds" in this thread! As if life and everyone in it is perfect and nothing ever goes wrong or any systems ever fail!
Particularly in unfamiliar marinas, rule one is to have an escape plan, because things do go wrong. Plenty of times I have not liked something (a current I had not noticed or a miscalculation) and bailed out to make a new, better approach. I think trying to force a missed approach is a common cause of accidents. If it's not right, start over.