this one's for Ross, and not boat related.

[TimCup]

probably white pine

quartercut shows a denser, finer grain with no knots- can look like alot of other woods, but softer.I'm sure there's alot of us that enjoyed your post. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Stillraining]

Ok Now

Im starting to have issues with this thread....NO PICTURES...I want to see this house...

 

[filthy liberal scum]

Stillrainin

I'll post a couple tomorrow. I'm draggin to much posterior tonight. Deal?S/V que Pasa/

 

[Ross]

Okay Jim you worked yourself to a stop yesterday

and now it is almost noon. What approach did you use and how does it look? No matter how it turns out if you like it , it's perfect.

 

[filthy liberal scum]

ross; have'nt tryed anything yet!

It'll be a few weeks before I'm ready to tackle floors. One thing i'm considering is interlux brown seam compound. supossedly it does'nt harden and remains flexible. another possibilty is butyle (sp}rubber caulk such as made by OSI. still thinking, pondering etc. when time comes I'm sure something will jump up and say why did'nt I think of that before.s/v Que Pasa?

 

[Ross]

Be cautious with the butyl caulk. Not only does it not harden it stays sticky

When I have to remove some it clings to knife blades and fingers and most everything it touches.

 

[sand sailor]

i delivered a pair of doors once

they were hand carved south american mahogany , 5" thick 14ft tall and 7'6" wide single piece of wood and a matched grain like book ends and no sign of center grain (quarter sawn) and i was told they were over 300yrs old.went to new mexico

 

[Ross]

Sand Sailor , I will bet that you didn't slid them of onto your

shoulder and carry them into the house. They used to cut those trees for fuel for sugar production.

 

[sand sailor]

they used two forklift's to set them

they weighed about 3000# each.dont get your finger caught in the door

 

[Paul Brinkley]

Sand Sailor-

those were tremendous. *yks Surely they went into a public building rather than a home? *!

 

[sailaway78]

I don't care

Sailing related or not, I want to see a pic or two of this house. And sandsailor, I have seen several sets of doors like that. In a lot of the small towns down in Mexico, they have these big old churches in the town square, and the doors are massive. Many if not most built during the Spanish Inquisition. Absolutely beautiful. Have never seen anything even close to them in this country.

 

[Ross]

Embassy Gates are sometimes built to those

dimensions. Imagine the hinging system needed for doors like that. Top and bottom pivots would be my guess. Quite posibly a roller on a curved track on the meeting edge.

 

[Stillraining]

Very cool Jim

I have a question out of ignorance...Did you leave every other log whitewashed or is that a tromendous amount of chinking between logs? Also what are the ceiling heights?Edit: We were posting at same time..Questions answered..

 

[filthy liberal scum]

a few tid bits of info

ceiling height on the first floor is about 7' floor to bottom of beam. second floor is less, 6'4". the lights you see is my string of construction lights. there is a lot of space between each course of logs. chestnut trees wer'nt very straight logs such as in the west with their pines, so therefore they could'nt be made to be real close together. also to make the corners they used a double wedge system to tie them together. to try to explain it, it is a system where they cut a "v" notch system that locked corners in place for both directions. one of the drawbacks to this system if you will was that there were tremendous loads on the corners of these houses. one of these chestnut logs that is aprox 24'long and aprox 12" square, weighed aprox 2 tons. so start stacking them up aprox 14' and imagine the loads on the corners. another interesting thing is that since they cut and immediately put them in place, once they dryed out the overall height of the house shrank aprox 2 to 3". which i might add makes for some interesting problems later.P.S have you ever been to Valley Forge? they knew the nationality of the troops that built the winter quarter log cabins by the way they built them. there are several different methods of const for the cabins. our particular type of log const was by folks of german origon.

 

[Chris Burti]

Source for lumber

If you really want to be satisfied with the result, replace the wood with wood a suggested earlier. If it is white pine, here is a source of recycled wood, you can get it in quqrtesawn clear boards, which should match your exisitnig floors. They have excellent pictures.When I replaced boards or plugged holes in the floors of our old home, I was able to play with stains to get a good patina match and ended up with no observable differences. I was lucky that they had saved cut-offs from when the house was built in 1925, so duplication of the wood was no problem.http://www.longleaflumber.com/whitepineskipped.cfm

 

[filthy liberal scum]

chris

I have decided that if i have to replace, I'm going to steal the boards from the attic floor. i do know that they will match as i've already stole a couple.but thanks anyway.

 

[Ross]

In log construction much depnds on the builders.

I have seen them with the logs hewn square and the corners dovetailed and the space between the logs as narrow as the thickness of a hand. Those houses had many people working on them. Others like Jim's that were built by just a few men and several children. Often they were covered on the inside with hand split lath and plastered with a lime-sand mortar and whitewashed with lime. The chinking was often just mud and grass that needed annual maintenance because the rain would take its toll on the chinks. The closer the logs are the more logs that need to be cut and fitted. It really wasn't too wasteful of material because the land needed to be cleared for planting and for heating and cooking fuel.