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They don't just drop overboard. The water attracts boat parts like a magnet.
I'm not sure what pin but something like this would work? http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=97&ParentCat=28
If you're talking about the gooseneck pin. It may already come with a hole in the unthreaded end.
I'm not sure what pin but something like this would work? http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=97&ParentCat=28
If you're talking about the gooseneck pin. It may already come with a hole in the unthreaded end.
Something to think about, those "quick-pin's", although 1/4" OD, they are hollow, so the effective strength of them compaired to a solid 1/4" pin would probably be less. Convienent, yes, but I wouldn't use one the forestay, just my opinion....
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Yep. I sort of hated to say that, but when I launched and setup the boat every time, that is exactly what I used. I still keep the lynch pins on the boat in case of an emergency. They are very quick, and strong. I've never seen a stainless one, If so, I would own it.
I know that the galvanized pins rust, but at a couple dollars apiece, I can replace them as often as I want. I loath those little ringy dingy things with a passion. The lynch pin is a whiz-bang when it comes time to set up..
I know that the galvanized pins rust, but at a couple dollars apiece, I can replace them as often as I want. I loath those little ringy dingy things with a passion. The lynch pin is a whiz-bang when it comes time to set up..
We have a 34 dated 1986 she has always tipped to Port about 2-3 % checked water fuel equipment all seems equal. What could be causing this and of course some cures. Not to sure had to start a thread or to research this subject already. ThanksUPSGUY said:
Perhaps check your keel? Additionally, check your rigging. If your mast is raked slightly, it could upset the balance. Also, have you added any furnishings or bulkheads? Have you replaced any materials on the boat? It's easy to replace worn out materials with "better" quality, but heavier, equipment and not realize you have upset the balance of the boat. Or, if you ran the boat aground, you could have upset the keel. Have you seen the keel lately?
if this were a C22 I'd say.... perhaps this person should just sit closer to the centerline.....
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The quick pins have a shear strength of about 9200 lbs, a low grade clevis pin has about 2000 lbs less and a high grade clevis pin is about 10000 lbs.
They are all far stronger than the cable strength Ie 1/8" 1700 lbs, 3/16" 3700lbs.
Your forestay tenshion is not likely to exceed 400 lbs.
The convenience of the quick pin is not the only reason to use one. I have had the ring dings snagged and pulled out of the clevis pin more than once.
I would not use linch pins they are meant to be yanked out and the ball is only spring loaded to keep the pin in place. The quick pin requires you to push the pin to retract the ball.
On the Mac I have used push pins for the goosed neck, back stay and forestay. In fact the Johnson leaver comes with one attached. All of the pins are lanyarded to the boat.
BTW the cost of the push pins have dropped dramatically over the last 6 years.
Maybe I used the name wrong. The pin I'm referring to is like the ones in Merlins link. I like that stainless, probably going to have to hook up.
No, I would never, outside of an emergency, use the pin with a spring ball. The ones I use have a "positive" latch. I can not say that one of these pins will not get pulled out, but at deck level, etc, it would be highly unlikely.
The majority of these pins are under a load most of the time, and with just a small amount of tension, it would take a hell of a lot to remove it.
I guess that those quick tensioners are ok, I don't know from experience, I don't use them. The cost is prohibitive, and it strikes me as a "contraption", a weak link if you will, that just displaces the need for a turnbuckle. The more simple an apparatus is, the better I like it. Less prone to failure.
No, I would never, outside of an emergency, use the pin with a spring ball. The ones I use have a "positive" latch. I can not say that one of these pins will not get pulled out, but at deck level, etc, it would be highly unlikely.
The majority of these pins are under a load most of the time, and with just a small amount of tension, it would take a hell of a lot to remove it.
I guess that those quick tensioners are ok, I don't know from experience, I don't use them. The cost is prohibitive, and it strikes me as a "contraption", a weak link if you will, that just displaces the need for a turnbuckle. The more simple an apparatus is, the better I like it. Less prone to failure.
I'm just a little confused here...
It seems in the OP, that UPSGuy is talking about the threaded pin used to secure the mainsail's tack to the boom. Then suddenly a few posts in someone is talking about the balance of the boat causing it to list a few degrees...???
What is this thread really about?
It seems in the OP, that UPSGuy is talking about the threaded pin used to secure the mainsail's tack to the boom. Then suddenly a few posts in someone is talking about the balance of the boat causing it to list a few degrees...???
What is this thread really about?
Bill, I'm confused too. That about the keel leaning and all, just lost me. At first I thought it was the screw piece, then I thought it was shroud pins, hell, I don't know.
Things do get a little sidetracked here, but that's ok. Some months back, some guy got mad as hell, said his post was hijacked, or some goofy crap like that, and said he was never going to post here again.
Very sensitive I reckon...
Things do get a little sidetracked here, but that's ok. Some months back, some guy got mad as hell, said his post was hijacked, or some goofy crap like that, and said he was never going to post here again.
Very sensitive I reckon...
By the way, I think that thread is just a 1/4"-20. At least that's what it looks like, I've never tried the pitch. Everything on these boats are S.A.E., so I wouldn't doubt it. That being the case, put a bolt in it. It sure would not stop my sailing.
I mean, worse case scenario, I'd run a line through the foot, and around the mast. It wouldn't be wonderful, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
I mean, worse case scenario, I'd run a line through the foot, and around the mast. It wouldn't be wonderful, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
Hi Don, I'm not sure about the effective strength of one of those quick release pins but CD is selling them for the purpose of fastening the forestay on the C22 and the C25. One culd ask them if they are concerned. My concern would be of fouling the ball/spring with dirt and having that pin come off without breaking.
Of course now that we know a bit more about the specific issue in question.......this is not what's used on the gooseneck fitting to hold the mainsail tack secure. That tack pin that is being offered by C22 comes with a small hole in the end that isn't threaded. One could put a ring and then a length of wire or thin line through that if they are afraid of dropping this pin overboard. I generally don't have an issue with this as I don't unfasten that tack pin when the boat is in the water because I leave the main on the boom at dock.
This is sort of what I have on mine. It seems to be a "new and improved" design, the exception being as Bilbo said, the hole for securing it. For all of you that wish that I would secure it around my neck, that's already been advised.
Evidently, my original has survived all these years, it's sort of miraculous when you think about it. But mine has a hole on the threaded end, I guess for a safety pin, rigging wire, etc.
As far as storing it, I drop the slugs out of the mast, and then roll the sail smartly about the boom. The emphasis on smartly, I like that, haha. But then I just stow in in the cabin. Keeps it dry, no UV, bird crap, whatever. And, I'm too cheap to buy a sail cover, which is another thing that I think is a helluva lot of trouble. I do this at the dock, OR trailering it, always have.
I'm not saying that it is THE way to do it, it boils down to what you're willing to "deal with", but actually having used covers, I find that this is much simpler.
And probably why I still have my original pin.
http://www.catalinadirect.com/images/D1148_S01.jpg
Evidently, my original has survived all these years, it's sort of miraculous when you think about it. But mine has a hole on the threaded end, I guess for a safety pin, rigging wire, etc.
As far as storing it, I drop the slugs out of the mast, and then roll the sail smartly about the boom. The emphasis on smartly, I like that, haha. But then I just stow in in the cabin. Keeps it dry, no UV, bird crap, whatever. And, I'm too cheap to buy a sail cover, which is another thing that I think is a helluva lot of trouble. I do this at the dock, OR trailering it, always have.
I'm not saying that it is THE way to do it, it boils down to what you're willing to "deal with", but actually having used covers, I find that this is much simpler.
And probably why I still have my original pin.
http://www.catalinadirect.com/images/D1148_S01.jpg
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