The one that did not get away from Hurricane Irene

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Mar 25, 2010
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Hunter 34 Rose Haven MD
I hear that the insurance says they will not cover it because he sailed dueing a hurricane warning.
 
Mar 2, 2011
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Compac 14 Charleston, SC
I expect we will see this boat on eBay before too long. Sad that the owner didn't just stay put in the harbor.
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Hunter Passage 420 Little Creek VA
Not sure. I will go back to the original 14MP photo file and zoom in on that area and post another photo.

If still unclear as to the soundness of the hull, I will go back again to take additional coser photos.

Ken

I went back and viewed the high res file. I can see no breach on any part of the hull that is showing. That spot right above the keel looks to be where the bottom paint is thin or worn away.

Ken
 

JohnS

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Sep 25, 2008
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Islander (Wayfarer/McGlasson) 32 St Georges Harbor
I hear that the insurance says they will not cover it because he sailed dueing a hurricane warning.
As I read it, he didn't have any insurance.

During Irene a tree fell on a neighbor's new truck. His wife is retired from the insurance industry. She says that pretty much all companies have higher deductibles for damage due to "named storms". Might want to check the fine print in your policies.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,709
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
That guy is a complete train wreck! He took a crap in a police car?....got arrested again? I'm guessing his boat get salvaged and sold on eBay.

I was trying not to be judgemental but he deserves no help or symapthy or than for his drinking problem.
I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess his marina neighbors are breathing a sigh of relief that this "neighbor" won't be back any time soon?:confused: He honestly sounds as if he may have some psych issues that are not being treated on top of the drinking. His lack of forethought to "outrun" a hurricane is something a manic person would pull not a sane sailor with "20 years" experience? Gets weirder by the minute..
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Hunter Passage 420 Little Creek VA
I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess his marina neighbors are breathing a sigh of relief that this "neighbor" won't be back any time soon?:confused: He honestly sounds as if he may have some psych issues that are not being treated on top of the drinking. His lack of forethought to "outrun" a hurricane is something a manic person would pull not a sane sailor with "20 years" experience? Gets weirder by the minute..

Weirder by the minute is right. The story says his plan was to dig the boat out until it floated then have it towed about 8 miles across the lower bay to Cobb's Marina in Little Creek, where it could be pulled and set up for repair. He was told the boat was not seaworthy. Unless there are some holes in the hull on the starboard side in the sand, I don't understand why it would not float and be able to be towed.

A huge problem in that "dig it out" plan is the distance from the water (both horizontally and vertically) to the boat. It would take some powerful digging to accomplish that task.

Oh well, will continue to watch as the drama continues.

Ken
 
Jan 27, 2010
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Oday 1971 23' Oday Pop Top Yet to be determined...
Issues anyone? This poor guy needs some major help!
 

BillyK

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Jan 24, 2010
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Catalina 310 Ocean City, NJ
JohnS said:
She says that pretty much all companies have higher deductibles for damage due to "named storms". Might want to check the fine print in your policies.
this is true for the policy I have on mine.. The difference is negligible at least for me though..
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
A question for the engineers and the military motor pool veterans. Could 4 men with heavy anchors, large rope and pulley blocks kedge this boat back to the water using the boat's two or three speed winches? It would be a down hill drag on smooth sand.
 
Sep 15, 2009
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S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
A question for the engineers and the military motor pool veterans. Could 4 men with heavy anchors, large rope and pulley blocks kedge this boat back to the water using the boat's two or three speed winches? It would be a down hill drag on smooth sand.
i dont think the wincehs would do it but you could use 10 ton comealongs...4 of them and move it working in a set pattern ....the wenches would more than likely pull out of there mountings and even if they didnt they would not be strong enough to pull the weight involved ....one might lay down some UHMV planks sort of like a track and reduce the friction.......

disclamer i did not have anything to do with building the pyarmids although i did sleep in a Hoilday Inn express;)

regards

woody
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
We wouldn't have to lift the boat just slide it on the hull, so we need only over come the friction of the smooth hull and the sand.
 

KD3PC

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Sep 25, 2008
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boatless rainbow Callao, VA
You would have to either lift the keel to keep that wing from digging in or air bag it and pull it head in or stern in the water first.

then, so you get it in the water...what next? If you look at the news photos and those here...you will see a breakwater that appears to be about 15-24" higher than the water and it runs a pretty good ways up and down the beach...then there is the overall shallow water beyond for at least several hundred yards before you could float her upright.

You would need a room full of guys, several zodiacs with skippers that know what they are doing (and the willingness to trash the props or jets), and someone who knows ropes/lines/cables and an awful lot of luck...and good weather, which will be in very short supply long about Monday late in that area.

Makes for interesting planning, but not based in reality...
 
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Feb 6, 1998
11,709
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
We wouldn't have to lift the boat just slide it on the hull, so we need only over come the friction of the smooth hull and the sand.
Ross,

The word is that the USCG was out Friday and has already deemed this vessel un-fit. The hull is warped, split and cracked. It will need to be moved via crane and truck or float bags, none of which I suspect this guy has the ability to pay for.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
That's why I asked. basically the boat is already a total loss. I bet the city will charge him for the cost of the removal.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,709
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
I bet the city will charge him for the cost of the removal.
And they darn well should. As a tax payer I certainly don't want to pay for someones brazen, ill planned, unprepared and completely illogical gambles...

Perhaps the tax payers of Nevada should foot the bill for the idiots who gamble their deeds or home equity lines of credit away and lose..? Seems the same type of situation and I don't see why the taxpayers should be the ones to foot the bill....:)
 
May 23, 2004
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I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
The answer is to salvage what he can off of the boat...this means part it out. Sell what you can and get what you can for it. Then bring in the chain saws and cut it up and haul it out in pieces.

If what they say is true about the hull this boat will never see water below her keel again. Sad for the boat.

It goes back to the old saying "you reap what you sow."

This guy should have held fast where he was going. I wonder if he wasn't drunk when he took off.

I wonder what became of his girlfriend. At least she has been able to avoid the media. She will probably never go to sea again, she is probably traumatized, and she will probably never speak to him again!
 

kenn

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Apr 18, 2009
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CL Sandpiper 565 Toronto
Thanks for the pictures, Ken.

Beached boats always look so... intact. Of course my practical brain is immediately occupied with the logistics of salvage. To me the least-cost scheme would be to drag it back into the water (kedging or a tug), then tow to nearest place where it can be hauled out and worked on.

Then the eye drifts to the chewed rudder, and the wounded bow, and I recall that this poor boat was slammed over a breakwater, and finally I read MaineSail's report that the hull is considered unfit... and I begin to appreciate that this boat won't ever sail again.

Add to that the human element...

The whole thing is sad. Regarding the boat, the guy's only hope for any kind of positive outcome is to have a good Samaritan salvage and part out the boat for him. Calling all Samaritans in Norfolk VA...

But most likely all he's gonna get is a bill from the city, which I expect he can't pay anyway.
 
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