the meaning of true friends???

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Sep 19, 2006
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SCHOCK santana27' lake pleasant,az
i was working lots of O/T these last few months and needed to count on a few of my so called friends to do something for me that i could not get to during normal business hours, its not something that took money just go by and pick something up and hold on to it till i got by and picked it up from them or had them drop it by the shop or the house. and all three times i was let down by people i thought i could count on, people i would jump at the drop of a hat to do things for because thats what friends do, at least thats what i thought. so what does the meaning of true friend have for you i'm not the kind of person that expects something from everybody but once in a while you need a little help and hope that help is there for you. things i've learned from this . : if you want something done right, do it yourself. : if you need a friend you can count on, get a dog. i believe in the concept of paying it forward, if you do something nice for someone it will eventually come back to you. i do something nice for someone every day and i live by this creed so i'm not giving up, just tired of being let down by the people around me. by the way i wish to give credit to the one friend that has always been there for me no matter what(see pic) sorry if this is posted in the wrong place, move it to the appropriate place if needed.
 

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Oct 18, 2007
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Macgregor 26S Lucama, NC
Keep trying...

to be the kind of person you want your friends to be, and sooner or later you will find the friends you want. Sometimes its a little harder to find good ones than the fair weather variety, but its worth the wait when you do. Nice dog.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Sand Sailor , Just raise your glass and wish

champagne for your true friends and true pain for your sham friends. You may need to associate with people that aren't so self suficient. People who don't need anything rarely see the need to be helpful to others.
 

garyk

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Aug 26, 2007
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Macgregor 25 Sedgwick
cheer up

Dear Sand Sailor I find your message sad. I work in health care (home health and hospice) as well as sail a Mac25 (WE bought "HUZZAH" last year). I only had a 17' before. I've retired from the USCG. Bottom line is I've had a lot of stuff go under the keel, but I've always felt I owed the world something that I can never repay. My existence. Is the concept of paying forward more than accumulating IOU's, or is it more like just helping someone because you can. Most of us are loners and do have a hard time finding folks we call friends, but that shouldn't hold us back from what we need to do (help others).
 
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Rodger

I am not buying it

It is obvious that you ask too much and you ask too often and your friends have decided to move on with out you. And you want people to feel sorry for you with a picture of a sad puppy. Well leave the puppy out of it and take a long look at your self. The boat can wait until you have more time for it.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Rodger , you make strong statements. Do you have good reason

? Do you know this man? Have you been asked too much too often by him?
 

Marcia

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Mar 26, 2007
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Paceship Yachts PY23 Cove Marina, NAB, Norfolk VA
Your True Friend?

Looks to me like you have your best friend in the picture! It's a sad story you have there. I'm blessed to have one or two truly good friends that I could ask anything of. The rest are good acquaintances.
 
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Rick9619

Rodger

Ok, who stole the surprise out of your cereal this morning?
 
Mar 28, 2007
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Oday 23 Anna Maria Isl.
Some friends may be too stressed to show best self

I think there is a lot of hidden under the surface financial stress in some people. Sometimes in people close to us that we might not expect. In Indiana, the middle class is dissappearing at an alarming rate. Factory jobs here no longer pay enough to own a home and nice car. People of the last generation have tapped their home equity to continue the appearance of being middle class but are slowly decending toward having longterm financial problems. I think this stress makes people forget the nice little daily things that friends often do for each other. But I'm sure they would help if the problem was critical.
 

Mike B

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Apr 15, 2007
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Beneteau 43 Baltimore, MD
Given time

Given time you'll know who your true friends are. The good ones will find their own way to show it. The others are just acquaintances. Expect nothing and you'll never be disappointed. When you do receive something in return you'll be delighted. Once you know who the real ones are cherish them and they'll return the favor.
 

CalebD

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Jun 27, 2006
1,479
Tartan 27' 1967 Nyack, NY
Sand Sailor, hang in there.

A little venting on the ole internet can really bring out the trolls. I have seen other photos of Tinker Bell (the dog) on your website and she sure is cute. She also looks a little mischievous, or is that just me projecting? Dogs can be such loyal creatures and that is why we call them man's best friend. We rarely say that another man or woman is our best friend as they can so often disappoint us. A helpful latin phrase I enjoy: Illigitimi non carburundum (Don't let the bastards grind you down!). I am sure the Latin scholars on this board will correct me on this! Hang in there.
 
Jun 4, 2004
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Catalina 30mkIII Elk Rapids, MI.
Friends

A retired cop friend of mine told me, "A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body!" I have a lot of friends as most do, I only have two I could count on to help move a body. As others have said, hang in there, accept this as just one more of life's valuable lessons. All of the really important lessons I have learned in life, have come with no small amount of pain. fair winds Dave
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,711
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
Too hard

I wonder if you have expectations of your friends that were too high. I have certainly had friends who have let me down, but on the other hand, I have had friends who have gone the extra mile for me. I like to think it goes both ways - I have gone the extra mile for friends, too. Have you?
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
What goes around

SandSailor, I am a firm believer in what goes around, comes around. Those who claim to be friends, and leave you in the lurch, will get their just rewards in time. Now you know who you can/can't count on if you really need a friend.
 
Sep 19, 2006
643
SCHOCK santana27' lake pleasant,az
paying it forward is??

stopping to help someone without asking or taking anything in return. i was driving my truck up hiway 285 in texas when i came across a mini van with a flat tire,i looked at my cell phone and had no signal so i pulled up and stopped mind you i was 130' long 18' wide and weighed over 160k lbs when i did this and changed her tire for her and sent her on her way. she tried to pay me but i would not accept thinking that if this was my wife i would hope for the same. a couple weeks later i received a letter from her husband thanking me for the help with a check enclosed the letter was signed texas state trooper. i never cashed the check, filed it with the letter somewhere..
 
Jan 27, 2007
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Irwin 37' center cockpit cleveland ohio
funny this shold come up

Boy the stuff I could write. War and Peace would be a quick read. I can assure you, you are not alone.
 
May 1, 2005
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Beneteau Oceanis Boca Raton, FL
Friends

It seems to me that you have awarded the concept of "friend" unjustly. Throughout life, most people only have one or two people they can or should label a friend. Looking back on my life, I can only identify one that I would give the label friend. I do not fault all the other good aquaintences I have since I do not expect anything from them, nor did I "expect" anything from the one person I considered a friend. I simply considered him a friend because of what I would do for him, without question.
 
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