The Experience Lessons Never Cease

Oct 29, 2016
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Hunter 41 DS Port Huron
Yesterday out on Lake Huron winds from the SSW 18 gusting to 25 seas were relatively calm on the South end of the lake, set the sails (roller furling main and jib) to approximately 60%, which provided for a comfortable heel angle and a steady speed of 7.2 to 7.8 kph. Later in the afternoon the wind speeds especially during gusts kick up a bit so I reduced the main sail area by another 5% which helped with the weather helm during gusts keeping the boat flatter without losing any speed (perhaps picking up a couple of tenths). As we were heading in a SE course (30* off the wind) a front caught up to us, now we had experienced earlier in the day (2) short squalls so I really didn't think much about the 3rd approaching front. When that front hit us, it hit us with more fury than I have ever felt while on a boat, I believe we experienced some straight line winds that provided us with at least 50 kph winds (perhaps as much as 60) the Sapphire immediately rounded and laid over on a very steep angle I was literally laying on the cockpit floor with water lapping over the combing, my son was closest to the main sheet which I asked to have released "SLOWLY" as he was being pelted by small hail and the rain felt like bullets hitting. Once the main sheet was eased the Sapphire stood higher and control was regained. The wind took the digital TV disk antenna off its bracket and turned into a flying saucer (now located somewhere in Lake Huron), the masthead light broke off its mount and is now dangling by its wire, all other masthead equipment survived thank goodness, although our dock mate has stated that my radio output sounds like there may be something going on with that. To add to this days adventures on our return the first of (3) bridges we have to have raised to get to our slip was inoperative, we were not able to reach our dock until 11:00 PM, we originally pulled in at around 6:00 PM ah well time for dinner and few wobbly pops.......
 
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Aug 3, 2012
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Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
Nice work! Those moments can be humbling. Sounds like you handled it well.
 
Apr 10, 2017
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Seidelman 37 Kemah, TX
There is no such thing as "kph". Knots already includes the "ph". Knots = nautical miles per hour.
 
Oct 9, 2008
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Bristol 29.9 Dana Point
There is no such thing as "kph".
Not true.
Maybe he meant kilometers per hour. :-D
Especially since he was on Lake Huron so he may have been in Canada during the weather.

Edit: geez Justsomeguy beat me to it by 1 minute.
 
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Oct 29, 2016
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Hunter 41 DS Port Huron
Well there you go I just keep learning and yes I was in Canadian waters for the described event but the wobbly pops were consumed in Port Huron. Thanks for that lesson I will make sure not to make that mistake again
 

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Jan 20, 2005
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Nauticat 321 pilothouse 32 Erie PA
do you remember whether the last squall line was dark black clouds or grey/white? it sounds to me that you might have experienced a 'white squall' with much higher velocity winds than most normal squalls. see john kretschmer' s fine books for descriptions of the 2 and why 'white squalls ' are so much more powerful, while appearing more innocuous than 'dark squalls...' (as for me -- i was tied securely at the dock , searching unsuccessfully for the ceramic thrust washer that fell into the bilge. it went missing from my march air conditioning pump due to my sloppy winterization -- which is yet another thread...)
 
Dec 29, 2008
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Treworgy 65' LOA Custom Steel Pilothouse Staysail Ketch St. Croix, Virgin Islands
Two thoughts: 1) "Experience" is what we get when we don't get what we want, and 2), what doesn't kill us makes us stronger!

You did learn what happens when your boat encounters very high winds, and that it is survivable. That is good to know. It sounded like you had good instincts to shorten sail. What you may also take away from this "experience" is that you might want to really shorten sail in approaching storm conditions, as with sufficient wind you can even sail in bare poles. Having only 10% of your sails out in those conditions might be appropriate.

Glad you are here to post about it!
 
Oct 29, 2016
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Hunter 41 DS Port Huron
Mitch, the front was indeed not the typical dark clouds but rather light grey or white, I will look into Kretschmer's book
NotCook I indeed feel more confident with the Sapphire now, having purchased the boat last September sailing her some 500 miles home I had never gone through what I did last weekend, but I know now that she will stand back up nicely although I don't think I want to practice that maneuver, would rather understand the environment better so to adjust appropriately to conditions before they become unruly.
 

LuzSD

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Feb 21, 2009
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Catalina 30 San Diego/ Dana Point, Ca.
wow, so happy you made it back in almost one piece. The things we learn (but don't have to actually live through) from each of these experiences is invaluable. Thank you for sharing this!
 
Mar 26, 2017
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Irwin 38 Palacios
New sailor here, took lessons in Corpus Christi bay. Made my first open water run from Galveston to Aransas Pass last month. That showed me how much I need to learn. Thanks for the post Daydreamer, Could you tell me what type of boat Sapphire is?
 
Oct 29, 2016
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Hunter 41 DS Port Huron
We have certainly enjoyed her thus far, very comfortable and well equipped she sails well as well, moving about in restricted quarters can be tricky with all her windage, but that just forces you to improve your skill.
 
Oct 29, 2016
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Hunter 41 DS Port Huron
I can't remember who said this, but it's SO true:

We all start out with a full bag of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill up the bag of experience before the bag of luck is empty.
Well no truer words could be spoken, definitely words from the wise!