Is there a cheap (Lowes or Home Depot)household type paint I can use in the bilge etc.? I just want a "Fresh" look.Stuff I have used so far on the fiberglass peeled.Should I use Binz or Kilz? Or somthing oil based? Thanks,LLOYD
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Come on Lloyd!
Considering that time is worth money and the other products that you've used are peeling off, why don't you try using paint especially formulated for bilges. You can get a quart of Bilgekote Enamel for about 25.00 and probably have enough for two coats. May be you won't have to do it again anytime soon as you probably will with the home supply stores paint. When they peel off and clog up your bilge pump, there will be another problem, not to mention the mess that you will have to clean up to repaint it.
Considering that time is worth money and the other products that you've used are peeling off, why don't you try using paint especially formulated for bilges. You can get a quart of Bilgekote Enamel for about 25.00 and probably have enough for two coats. May be you won't have to do it again anytime soon as you probably will with the home supply stores paint. When they peel off and clog up your bilge pump, there will be another problem, not to mention the mess that you will have to clean up to repaint it.
Loyd a counter point
I used Rustolium (oil based $8-$11 quart) to freshen up some bilge stains and slow down rusting of keel nuts/bolts. It has held up well past year and there has been fair amount of rain water (though keel steped mast) in the bilge this past winter. Clean the surface with a solvent such as acetone first. Scott
I used Rustolium (oil based $8-$11 quart) to freshen up some bilge stains and slow down rusting of keel nuts/bolts. It has held up well past year and there has been fair amount of rain water (though keel steped mast) in the bilge this past winter. Clean the surface with a solvent such as acetone first. Scott
Cheap Polyurethane Paint
Like Scott, I have used rustoleum rusty metal primer and rustoleum on several boat projects and been very happy with the results. BTW, ace Hardware brand enamels are made at the same factory as rustoleum. However, there is a cheaper polyurethane paint option that I have used under my v-berth etc... Ace Hardware brand floor paint comes in both an enamel and a polyurethane formula at about half the cost of bilge kote. Any quality enamel or poly will not flake off if you prep the area well. Scott is right, clean really well--then clean with a solvent (I generally use acetone). Make sure the surface is not shiny smooth (roughen with 150 grit sand paper if in doubt). Follow the instructions on the can and put a couple of coats on and you will be good for years.
Like Scott, I have used rustoleum rusty metal primer and rustoleum on several boat projects and been very happy with the results. BTW, ace Hardware brand enamels are made at the same factory as rustoleum. However, there is a cheaper polyurethane paint option that I have used under my v-berth etc... Ace Hardware brand floor paint comes in both an enamel and a polyurethane formula at about half the cost of bilge kote. Any quality enamel or poly will not flake off if you prep the area well. Scott is right, clean really well--then clean with a solvent (I generally use acetone). Make sure the surface is not shiny smooth (roughen with 150 grit sand paper if in doubt). Follow the instructions on the can and put a couple of coats on and you will be good for years.
Cost-Benefit ?
Let’s do a cost-benefit analysis here: Clean Bilge (1 Hr @ $25) = $25 Sand Bilge (1 Hr @ $25) = $25 Re-clean Bilge (1 Hr @ $25) = $25 Paint Bilge (1 Hr @ $25) = $25 Mobilization/Demob’ (2 Hrs @ $25) = $50 Total Labour to re-paint a bilge (my time is worth something) = $150 Possible Cost savings on materials ($25 Bilgecoat - $8 El Cheapo) = $17 saving By “cheaping out” on paint, we can save approximately 6% of the cost of doing it right. The cost of “expensive” materials is < 20% of the value of labour. In construction, we approximate Labour as being (likely) Half the cost of Materials - so would view this materials cost as being “inconsequential” against any potential labour-saving (in our case doing it over again. I know - it's easy for me to spend YOUR money.
Gord
Let’s do a cost-benefit analysis here: Clean Bilge (1 Hr @ $25) = $25 Sand Bilge (1 Hr @ $25) = $25 Re-clean Bilge (1 Hr @ $25) = $25 Paint Bilge (1 Hr @ $25) = $25 Mobilization/Demob’ (2 Hrs @ $25) = $50 Total Labour to re-paint a bilge (my time is worth something) = $150 Possible Cost savings on materials ($25 Bilgecoat - $8 El Cheapo) = $17 saving By “cheaping out” on paint, we can save approximately 6% of the cost of doing it right. The cost of “expensive” materials is < 20% of the value of labour. In construction, we approximate Labour as being (likely) Half the cost of Materials - so would view this materials cost as being “inconsequential” against any potential labour-saving (in our case doing it over again. I know - it's easy for me to spend YOUR money.
GordGord I Agree with your point
If you are doing a 4 hour prep and paint task, use the best materials. My project was a lot smaller in scale. It was also a "test", of my chosen product and prep method. Scott
If you are doing a 4 hour prep and paint task, use the best materials. My project was a lot smaller in scale. It was also a "test", of my chosen product and prep method. Scott
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