Tender for Vega

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pelagicasd

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Jan 28, 2001
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We carried a 9 1/2 ft. inflatable on the fore deck but there wasn\'t much room to maneuver with it. 230 cm is 7 1/2 ft. It might be a bit small for 2 adults and a child. Were you going to use a motor on it? For 1 to 2 day trips we towed ours. Longer than
2 days we deflated it and stowed on it cabin top. My present dingy is 10 1/2 ft. and it is really a bit to big to inflate on board.
                                                                                                                                                                       Walt.





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Dear Vega-friends,
could anyone advise me about the useable type and size of tender for my Vega?
I am thinking to buy a 230cm long inflatable one:
www.svb.de

Schlauchboot NEMO 230 / Lattenboden / 2,5 Personen / 2,25 m nur 429,95 € | SVB

Ausgezeichnetes Preis-/Leistungsverhältnis, einfache Handhabung und gute Fahreigenschaften: Das ist unser Yachttender NEMO 230!
www.svb.de www.svb.de











SEATEC Schlauchboot NEMO 230 / 2,25 m / dunkelblau/weiß ...

www.svb.de

Ausgezeichnetes Preis-/Leistungsverhältnis, einfache Handhabung und gute Fahreigenschaften: Das ist unser Yachttender NEMO 230!






, is it place enough to stove it on the foredeck during 1-2 days long passages? We need place for two adults and a kid.
 Thanks a lot,
Karoly (V-1306)
 
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pelagicasd

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Jan 28, 2001
694
If you do get the Seatec,  for the yellow one. If you ever need to use it as a life raft you will be easier to find.





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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:47 AM
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We carried a 9 1/2 ft. inflatable on the fore deck but there wasn\'t much room to maneuver with it. 230 cm is 7 1/2 ft. It might be a bit small for 2 adults and a child. Were you going to use a motor on it? For 1 to 2 day trips we towed ours. Longer than
2 days we deflated it and stowed on it cabin top. My present dingy is 10 1/2 ft. and it is really a bit to big to inflate on board.
                                                                                                                                                                       Walt.





From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com <AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of scholl.karoly@... [AlbinVega] <AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:05 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Tender for Vega
 

 




Dear Vega-friends,
could anyone advise me about the useable type and size of tender for my Vega?
I am thinking to buy a 230cm long inflatable one:
www.svb.de

Schlauchboot NEMO 230 / Lattenboden / 2,5 Personen / 2,25 m nur 429,95 € | SVB

Ausgezeichnetes Preis-/Leistungsverhältnis, einfache Handhabung und gute Fahreigenschaften: Das ist unser Yachttender NEMO 230!
www.svb.de www.svb.de











SEATEC Schlauchboot NEMO 230 / 2,25 m / dunkelblau/weiß ...

www.svb.de

Ausgezeichnetes Preis-/Leistungsverhältnis, einfache Handhabung und gute Fahreigenschaften: Das ist unser Yachttender NEMO 230!






, is it place enough to stove it on the foredeck during 1-2 days long passages? We need place for two adults and a kid.
 Thanks a lot,
Karoly (V-1306)
 
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alaskaflyfish

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Oct 15, 2015
206
I've heard that the port-a-bote is a nice solution for a tender. I have not been able to actually see one up here in Alaska but I have seen the advertisements and they look like it would work well. From: "chuck@... [AlbinVega]" AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 7:41 AM Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: Tender for Vega




We checked out a foldable RIB at the Seattle Boat Show last month that looks to us like the best solution to the dinghy problem for a small boat like the Vega. Expensive, but it certainly solves the problem F-RIB | Revolutionary new Foldable RIBs (F-RIBs) and LauraSV Lealea, V1860






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groundhogyh

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... was waiting for the porta boate to come up. i had one and got rid of it. leaving dock one night with guest and it took a wave over the front and instantly swamped and capsized. While towing, it likes to take small drinks from the front, causing it to sink. Towing, you have to get the line just right.Sent from my iPhone
 
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alaskaflyfish

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Oct 15, 2015
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Thanks for the info on the port-a-bote. I think every small dinghy has a shortcoming weather it be a nesting dinghy or an inflatable. I have a Zodiac Zoom slat floor and it is slow,wet, and near impossible to row against the wind and tide. The nesting dinghy I saw looked like the top half of a car top carrier and just seemed downright small and scary. Water up here is deathly cold. From: "ground hog groundhogyh@... [AlbinVega]" AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Re: Tender for Vega




... was waiting for the porta boate to come up. i had one and got rid of it. leaving dock one night with guest and it took a wave over the front and instantly swamped and capsized. While towing, it likes to take small drinks from the front, causing it to sink. Towing, you have to get the line just right.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 24, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Tim Malone alaskaflyfish@... [AlbinVega] AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
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btfag0s

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Sep 13, 2002
203
I also have a large (5/6 man 8' ?) Achilles dinghy, that's now well over 20 years old and holding up well.After a couple of strong winds incidents early in its life we now tow it close astern. I made a bridle with a couple of snap shackles that connect the D-rings on the dinghy grab ropes to the backstay u-bolts, with a couple of diagonal cords that act like springs. It doesn't move around a gale, and there's no chance it will flip. In the marina it stows upside down on the foredeck, and is a neat fit between the mast and pulpit.
 
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alaskaflyfish

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Oct 15, 2015
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Hi Howard, Yes, deck space is hard to find.Thanks for that input because I have been thinking about getting one. How big was your port-a-bote? I thought the 8 foot boat would be suitable for its smaller size. No? Its good to hear first hand experiences with different dinghy's. I suppose inflatable is still the best choice. From: "Howard Barbour sailshiva@... [AlbinVega]" AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Re: Tender for Vega




Tried it, very difficult to assemble on deck.Sent from my iPadOn Feb 24, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Tim Malone alaskaflyfish@... [AlbinVega] AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
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groundhogyh

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May 30, 2006
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just imagine... foreign port, 12am, flipping, everyone in the water, computers, cell phones, somehow righting boat, somehow getting it back to dock.thats a long night watching your vega out there, and a long expensive day... and it could have been much much worse.inflatables dont sinkSent from my iPhone
 
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kgrieser1230

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Oct 31, 2019
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We have a 10' port-a-bote as our tender for our new boat (Prout Snowgoose) and frankly love it, but we keep it on our stern davits most of the time. On passage we do fold it and lash it to the life lines. It easily fits 2 adults and our three kids 3, 5, and 9. It almost planes with our 4 horse, but a 6 would be better. On a Vega I would hesitate though unless you plan on towing all the time. Setup and takedown is possible in the cockpit, but I sure wouldn't want to. If it were me, I would think something like a 8' nesting dinghy would be perfect. I've never tried to fit one, but a Portland pudgy would be my second choice if it fit.
 
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pelagicasd

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Jan 28, 2001
694
Strong wind incidents. Brings back memories. Woke up one morning to find the dinghy upside down in the anchorage after gale force winds one night. Bad thing was seeing the outboard prop in the air. Had to take it apart, flush everything with fresh water
and put it back together. It ran.
Second incident was traveling from La Paz to San Carlos when we were taking Lyric home from Mexico. We got caught by weather and had to duck into Puerto Escondito where we sat on a mooring ball for 3 days. The port was formed by a break water connecting
a small island to the mainland and gave very good protection from the waves and very little from the wind. We had winds to 80 mph! The dinghy came completely out of the water and flying like a kite. I had to snug it up tight to the stern. By this time we had
learned to stow the outboard on board at night. It was also a very light weight dinghy. A Bombard 9'6" with an air floor and probably weighed 50 or so lbs.
We also learned not to tow the dinghy from the bow after another cruising boat happened to look back and couldn't see the dinghy. They were towing the handle as it had ripped off. We towed ours with a bridle to eyebolts through the transom. I wouldn't recommend
this as our transom eventually started to separate from the tubes. This would have been an easy fix if the boat was made from Hypalon but it was made from PVC. Hypalon is easy to glue and PVC is difficult to glue the transom brace back on as they are ultrasonically
welded on at the factory. We were able to do a repair on it but now I would not use it with an outboard. Doing it over I would go with the lines to the D-rings, I like that idea. If a ring pulls off you would still be connected to the one aft of it.
I like the Achilles with the inflatable floors as the are made from Hypalon. They are heavier than PVC boats but much more durable. PVC degrades in the sun and there was a cottage industry in Mexico making fabric covers for the tubes. We could inflate the
Bombard on the fore deck but it would be very difficult to do so with the Achilles. They do make smaller Achilles with sizes starting at starting at 7'7", 8'6", 9'6" and 10'2" and larger. We had friends with a 7'7" one and they really wished that they had
bought a larger one. Considering rowing with 2 people , fuel jugs, water jugs and provisions they had to make multiple trips whereas we could usually get everything on boat in one trip. The cost has really increased over the years.
Dinghy theft can also be a problem. It might be worthwhile to make up a steel cable. Thieves probably wouldn't have cable cutters with them. We had another friend who had 2 dinghys stolen
and after the second one he just started using the really cheap ones from Walmart. Walt From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com on behalf of yahoo@... [AlbinVega] AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
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I also have a large (5/6 man 8' ?) Achilles dinghy, that's now well over 20 years old and holding up well.After a couple of strong winds incidents early in its life we now tow it close astern. I made a bridle with a couple of snap shackles that connect the D-rings on the dinghy grab ropes to the backstay u-bolts, with a couple of diagonal cords that act like
springs. It doesn't move around a gale, and there's no chance it will flip. In the marina it stows upside down on the foredeck, and is a neat fit between the mast and pulpit.
 
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Very interesting Chuck. What were they asking for them? WaltFrom: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com on behalf of chuck@... [AlbinVega] AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
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We checked out a foldable RIB at the Seattle Boat Show last month that looks to us like the best solution to the dinghy problem for a small boat like the Vega. Expensive, but it certainly solves the problem F-RIB | Revolutionary new Foldable RIBs (F-RIBs)

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F-RIB 330 making the perfect tender. The First Foldable RIB with a worldwide patented design. The best solution when storage size matters. The F-RIB 330 weighing only ...Chuck and Laura
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Your strong wind incidents sound just like mine ..  -          #1. Bought a new outboard; attached it to dinghy and towed on a single painter; force 6 crosswind flipped the dinghy and drowned the outboard before it was christened. Cleaned in fresh water, and > 20 years later it runs sweetly. Never towed a dinghy with the outboard attached after that.-          #2. Not long after #1; big seas, big wind, again a single painter. Dinghy was flying like a kite, and almost stopped the boat dead in the water when it flipped and dug into the sea. Since then, I’ve used a bridle that keeps the dinghy a couple of inches away from stern and in line with the boat no matter what the weather (and stops it swinging round and bouncing off other boats in a marina)  Alisdair  From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] Sent: 25 February 2017 15:07To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [AlbinVega] Tender for Vega  Strong wind incidents. Brings back memories. Woke up one morning to find the dinghy upside down in the anchorage after gale force winds one night. Bad thing was seeing the outboard prop in the air. Had to take it apart, flush everything with fresh water and put it back together. It ran.Second incident was traveling from La Paz to San Carlos when we were taking Lyric home from Mexico. We got caught by weather and had to duck into Puerto Escondito where we sat on a mooring ball for 3 days. The port was formed by a break water connecting a small island to the mainland and gave very good protection from the waves and very little from the wind. We had winds to 80 mph! The dinghy came completely out of the water and flying like a kite. I had to snug it up tight to the stern. By this time we had learned to stow the outboard on board at night. It was also a very light weight dinghy. A Bombard 9\'6" with an air floor and probably weighed 50 or so lbs.We also learned not to tow the dinghy from the bow after another cruising boat happened to look back and couldn\'t see the dinghy. They were towing the handle as it had ripped off. We towed ours with a bridle to eyebolts through the transom. I wouldn\'t recommend this as our transom eventually started to separate from the tubes. This would have been an easy fix if the boat was made from Hypalon but it was made from PVC. Hypalon is easy to glue and PVC is difficult to glue the transom brace back on as they are ultrasonically welded on at the factory. We were able to do a repair on it but now I would not use it with an outboard. Doing it over I would go with the lines to the D-rings, I like that idea. If a ring pulls off you would still be connected to the one aft of it.I like the Achilles with the inflatable floors as the are made from Hypalon. They are heavier than PVC boats but much more durable. PVC degrades in the sun and there was a cottage industry in Mexico making fabric covers for the tubes. We could inflate the Bombard on the fore deck but it would be very difficult to do so with the Achilles. They do make smaller Achilles with sizes starting at starting at 7\'7", 8\'6", 9\'6" and 10\'2" and larger. We had friends with a 7\'7" one and they really wished that they had bought a larger one. Considering rowing with 2 people , fuel jugs, water jugs and provisions they had to make multiple trips whereas we could usually get everything on boat in one trip. The cost has really increased over the years.Dinghy theft can also be a problem. It might be worthwhile to make up a steel cable. Thieves probably wouldn\'t have cable cutters with them. We had another friend who had 2 dinghys stolenand after the second one he just started using the really cheap ones from Walmart.                                                                                Walt                                   From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com <AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of yahoo@... [AlbinVega] <AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 1:11 PMTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [AlbinVega] Tender for Vega    I also have a large (5/6 man 8\' ?) Achilles dinghy, that\'s now well over 20 years old and holding up well.  After a couple of strong winds incidents early in its life we now tow it close astern. I made a bridle with a couple of snap shackles that connect the D-rings on the dinghy grab ropes to the backstay u-bolts, with a couple of diagonal cords that act like springs. It doesn\'t move around a gale, and there\'s no chance it will flip. In the marina it stows upside down on the foredeck, and is a neat fit between the mast and pulpit.       
 
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The 9 foot F-RIB is $2995. We will see where we are this Summer. We may get one if we wind up heading out again soon but everything is so up in the air right now there is no telling.Chuck
 
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Chuck. A new Achilles 9'6" is going for close to $2100. For another $895 you get one that is a folding RIB. Sounds like a very good deal to me.If we were going to keep Lyric I would look into it.Unfortunately Judy has swallowed the anchor and wants to move to Arizona. AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Anyway what do I need to do to get LYRIC listed on the AVA website? Going over the equipment on board and it is looking like well over $40,000 in upgrades. Most of the electronics need to be upgraded and she needs paint. Other than that she is a well founded
little vessel. Custom galvanized trailer and a 1994 F350 diesel pickup will tow her any where there is a road.From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com on behalf of chuck@... [AlbinVega] AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
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The 9 foot F-RIB is $2995. We will see where we are this Summer. We may get one if we wind up heading out again soon but everything is so up in the air right now there is no telling.Chuck
 
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