Telltales - Part 3

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May 17, 2004
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Mates: We are almost finished with the subject of telltales. I'm spending a lot of time on this subject because telltales are absolutely the most important sail trim and steering indicators on the boat. If you can read them correctly you are miles ahead of the average sailor. Additionally, there is not much point in discussing the sail trim controls for the main and jib unless you know which way to push or pull them. The telltales give you this input. Telltales are most effective in light to medium wind. In heavy wind, the strenght of the wind overpowers them (they stream) and it gives false indicators. What does a telltale look like when it is about to stall? Assume your sailing too high. The windward telltale will tell you that the jib is about to stall by either sticking straight up or it will point forward or flip around restlessly. So you have to do somthing and the easiest thing to do is sail a bit lower. Assume your sailing too low. The leeward telltale, which should ALWAYS stream, will tell you that you have made a steering error by hanging limp. The first person to see this will probably be the jib trimmer - if he is paying attention!! He immediately needs feed back from the driver. If the driver does not wake up or has decided to change course and has not told the crew, then the jib trimmer has to react and so does the mainsail trimmer. The top telltale on the mainsail is an ADJUSTMENT INDICATOR and is essential for adjusting twist. When it curls around the back of the sail, it is telling you that the sail does not have enough twist and you have to dial in some twist. Every one who has been following this Forum know what the mainsail twist controls are - right? They are the boom vang and the mainsheet. There are middle and lower telltales also? Why did God put them there? He put them there to tell you about the overall shape of the sail. Say the top telltale is streaming but the next one down is stalling. What that is telling you is the main is too full or too flat at the top. Probably it is too full. What sail trim controls do you use to take the fullness out of the middle of the sail? The answer is mast bend and outhaul. This is probably more information about telltales than most sailors want to know and I hope I'm not boring folks but if you want to become a high intermediate and eventually move to expert sail trimmer you have to know how to read them. Many years ago, when I decided to take sail trim serously, I realized that without the ability to read the telltales I was lost from a sail trim standpoint.
 
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Don, Have you ever tried to use/fly a main sail that has the bolt rope in the foot, as a loose footed main instead of threading it through the boom? Would something like that work? Would it perform better or worse than with it threaded through the boom? And, yes, I ordered your book (already have your chart). I live in St. Charles MO, but my Mac Gregor 26S is in a slip on Carlyle Lake in Illinois. I want to be able to sail as well as that Mac 26 that won the race you mentioned in another post... I think the book will help to get me there. I took 3rd place last season in our local club - Tradewinds. Thank you, Bruce
 
May 17, 2004
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Other Catalina 30 Tucson, AZ
Bruce: Actually, I've never tried it but I would imagine it would work. There has to be some mates on this forum that have tried it and hopefully they could give some input. From this point on, I'm talking off the top of my head or out the other end of my body so you have to take the rest of this paragraph that way. As I said, I think it might work but believe the bolt rope would detract from the effectiveness and take away from the potential of the loose footed sail. I really pulled that out of thin air!! From this point on I'm not talking out of my rear end. There are two camps on this issue - there is the loose footed group and the bolt rope group. Both think their sail system is better. Personnally, I think loose footed is a neat idea sail makers came up with to sell the sail for the same price or more when it costs lest to manufacture, but I'm sure there is more to it than that. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. The only way to know which is the better sail system is to sail identical boats head to head. Last year, the Congressional Cup, which is held off Long Beach, has identical boats sailed by the best sailors in the world. About that time, I was involved in a big argument with the loose footed Catalina guys (I'm a bolt rope guy) over on another network. The beauty of these races is that the start and finish line is located right off Belmont Pier and you can look right into the cockpits and see how these guys handle the sail trim controls. It is a trip to watch. The first thing I noticed was that out of the 12 boats, 2 had loose footed mains and the first and second race pitted the loose footed against the bolt rope so I was really interested in how these races went. As a note, if it is such an improvement why would not more of these boats be loose footed? I watched them cover the entire course and you know what the end result was? It was almost a dead heat through out the entire course and even the finish line. So my opinion is there is not a wits difference between the 2 systems. A friend of mine, named Neal McGinnis, who sails a C30 out of San Diego and whom I've raced with, sails loose footed and he tells me he wins all the time loose footed - which he does but it has nothing to do with his loose footed main. Neal is just a better sailor than the rest of the fleet. Loose footed guys will tell you they can shape the sail better - whatever that means - but I will stack my bolt rope shape up against the best of them. The bottom line is if your happy with your system then be happy and sail on. On your Mac26 - my first boat, when I got back into sailing, was a Mac22. I loved that boat which I kept at Lake Havasu, Az where I have a second home. Unfortuantely, on Lake Havasu it either blows 90 knots or zero. That boat actually showed me I had no idea what I was doing from a sail trim stand point. As I started to get into sail trim, it was hard to test the techniques I was trying to figure out, so I would jack the trailer around to get a good wind angle and then raise the main and jib in my driveway and fool aroundwith sail trim. My wife and the neighbors thought I was a nut case and would ask my wife what I was doing - I told her to tell them I drying the sails but she never did. Everytime my wife heard sirens she would tell me it was my ride to the nut house coming to pick me up!! I just ignored her.
 
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