teak toe rail

Nov 26, 2008
1,970
Endeavour 42 Cruisin
I have a wide teak toe rail. Varnish looked great when I boughtvit but is very difficult to maintain. Full time cruising, we have other things to do!

So I've scraped all the varnish off. Looking at Semco or Watco as a coating. Semco golden looks good for us. I hear it builds up and needs removal. Don't want the extra work.

Easy is at the top of the list.
Easy is also second and third!

I've seen sister ships with grey and they are showing quite a bit of cracking and checking and I have none of that so I think I need something vs let it go grey.
 
Oct 24, 2010
2,405
Hunter 30 Everett, WA
Some don't like the apperance, but I've used Cetol with pretty good success. In our region it's good for about a year without recoating.

That was our old boat. Now I need to figure out what to to with some narrow (1/4 inch or so) long trim pieces. They are grey and pretty rough.

Ken
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
The problem with any of these finishes is that the rail isn't sealed. You have screws that wick moisture into the toerail, and when the weather freezes the coating pops off. I'm about to strip mine of Cetol gloss and keep them stained/oil with the Cetol natural teak stain.
 
Nov 9, 2012
2,500
Oday 192 Lake Nockamixon
I recommended Semco for my friend's new teak deck furniture, based on the recommendation of a trusted FL sailor I know. I finally got to see the furniture after a couple months, and I felt it was due for another application. I don't see how it would build up. It's a watery finish, and you should apply it frequently, but it goes on so quickly and easily it's not a problem.

Cetol will build up. In my experience, on new teak, it bubbled after maybe 2 seasons. On the old teak that I sanded, it didn't bubble. Dang that stuff. Even though I had wiped down the new teak with acetone, apparently not thoroughly enough... It'll get scraped down next spring, I guess, and maybe Semco. The other problem with Cetol is getting the right color. I will tell you that Cetol Marine Light has a translucent orange color to it, that I don't care for, but I have become used to. Cetol Marine Gloss is colorless. I forget whether or not Cetol Marine or Cetol Marine Natural Teak is the closest to a varnished hue. One of those colors is a pretty dark brown, which probably isn't appropriate for teak on a boat - I mean, if you like the look of varnished teak. Cetol goes on looking like translucent paint - a thin film finish. It does not build and fill the grain the way varnish does.

There are other products out there, such as Honey Teak. There is a well respected sailor here who posts excellent sail trim advice, and he loves Honey Teak, says he gets about 6 years out of it. It's expensive. Near as I can tell, it is some form of epoxy or polyurethane.

I've also heard of Bristol Finish, which is a 2 part polyurethane finish. And Interlux and Pettit also make 2 part poly varnish-like finishes.

One product I know of is Coelan. It's a 2 part finish, that is supposed to have 300% elasticity characteristics, so that it gives with the expansion and contraction of wood caused by moisture cycles. I've never used it on wood, but it does mate well with the stretch of wet ballistic nylon we use for skin-on-frame kayak skinning. Again, it's very expensive, but in my group of traditional Greenland kayak builders, it's regarded to be the best, longest lasting skin treatment. Given its expense, most opt to use Coelan on a frame you know you LOVE after the first skin has worn out. I do not know how well Coelan will handle the oils of teak.
 
Nov 26, 2008
1,970
Endeavour 42 Cruisin
When the weather freezes? When that happens we are laughing our arses off in Florida or the Bahamas! :) We cruise full time.

I suck with fancy 2 part paints and expensive varnish. Simple simple simple.

Anyone have experience with Watco? Vs Semco?

Cetol sounds like too much work for me. Cuts into snorkeling, fishing, sailing, beachcombing, boozing, drone flying, happy hour, grilling, napping, fixing broken stuff, drinking, sailing, and surfing sbo!