Tall Mast vs Standard

[Mike]

My only experience is crewing. Please forgive what may seem as a niave questions, but...I'm doing research on purchasing a Cat. 30' (1979-1981). Trying to assess the pros/cons of having a tall mast or standard. For example, how much more speed do you gain (all else being equal), differing cost of maintenance or handling, etc. Also, what are the two heights?Third question- some boats I've looked at had a main sail that had a "deep pocket" or "quite a billow"--not sure of the vernacular, but the sails themselves seemed to be in good condition, albeit about 20 yrs old. Is this an indication of the sail being stretched and in need of replacement? Or are there just different "cuts" to sails? If this is just a certain cut, generally what type of sail cut is better for greater speed for a 30'? Many thanks.

 

[LaDonna Bubak - CatalinaOwners]

Tall vs. standard

Unless you're racing, the speed gained from a tall rig is negligible. What does 3/10 of a knot feel like? Not to say NOT to buy a tall rig, just that as a cruiser, you probably wouldn't notice the difference. I don't know the height of the masts but the billowy sails indicate that they're spent. Mains *should* be nice

 

[Lauraine]

I agree with LaDonna.

The difference between the two mast heights is 2 feet. The standard is 40' and the tall is 42'. You end up with a larger sail area with the tall rig and bowsprit which is good if you plan on doing most of your sailing in very light air. We have the standard rig and find with a 150 genoa that she does very well in light air. But we're cruisers not racers.

 

[Colin Wightman]

What makes you feel smug?

We find that the tall rig on our C36 makes a big difference when we have REALLY light air...on those days when you're hanging over the side looking for dust specks on the water to confirm forward motion, our tall rig and 150% genoa let us move at a knot or so when almost everybody else is wallowing. On the other hand, if we're actually trying to get somewhere under those condition its with the engine. SO, does creeping past other boats while they sit still make you feel smug? Then go for the tall rig. If getting to your destination in a timely fashion is better for you, maybe think about spending the money on a good cruising spin.

 

[Dean Bachelor]

and something else

I also have a C30 1985 and we love it!The other thing about the tall rig is you do get the bow sprit, which gives you a great place for the anchor, AND the roller furler is out front too. My advice=don't be to pickey!! Just get one!!How bad have you got it? HA HA

 

[Bob Camarena]

Shelf?

There is a style of main that is built with what is called a "shelf" which results in sort of a deep pocket at the foot, along the boom. The shelf can be pulled tight with the outhaul for heavier wind. Any sail that is 20 years old is due to be replaced so factor new sails into your economics. Your best bet is to consult with a local sailmaker as to what would be best since local sailing conditions (along with your needs) will greatly affect what type of cut is "best". In my opinion, for general sailing and cruising I'd opt for a full battened main.