Talking Boats....

Dec 1, 1999
2,391
Hunter 28.5 Chesapeake Bay
In reading the recent thread where an owner asked if he should replace a $7 shaft log hose that seemed to be in good condition, I wondered how all of you approach the issue of when to replace the various and many parts and pieces on our boats. Is it a matter of cost? Length of time in service? Ease or difficulty of the job? Or is it more a case of if it "don't squeak, don't fix it?" Yet everything on our boats eventually wears out, even the captain. You can't replace everything -- at least I can't.
In long years of boat ownership and maintenance, I've come to believe that boats really do "talk to us" when they need attention of some sort. Just like with dogs barking, the issue is are we listening and what do the sounds really mean? I've come to know the sound of my diesel engine when its innards are happy. But when its heart misses a beat, so does mine -- and I'm not happy or relaxed until I find out the reason for the fibrilation. Unusual water pump squeaks, sails flapping, or standing rigging vibrating when they should not are all similar examples. Do we ignore these barking dogs or try to find the reason for
them? All of us are probably guilty, at one time or another, of just ignoring the bark and hoping it'll go away. Sometimes it does, but mostly it only gets worse. And then we all know and apply a number of rules of thumb, like "x" hours of operation to change filters/impellers and the like. So how many times have you opened the water pump, removed the impeller, and found it to in excellent condition? What then? Buy and install a new one and keep the old as a spare? Put the old one back in service?
So while your boat is talking to you, sometimes it's not so easy to decode the language. How many of us have gone out in a blow and, while heeled way over, looked up at that aging standing rigging and wondered if today is the day it'll come down? Or sponged up that little leak next to the raw water intake seacock and never gave it another thought? Or pushed in that popped circuit breaker and just kept on going?
You get the idea. How do you balance cost versus safety and reliability and dependability on your boat?
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,352
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Warren, there's never a cost for safety. It's do DO IT or don't go out issue to me. I have ranted periodically here that knowledge of electrical systems is a safety issue, too.

I keep an engine maintenance log which includes what I've done, when and the engine hours, as well as "Handy Tips" for when I do it the next time. That log includes "Checks" for items such as the HX zinc, oil changes, transmission changes and fuel filter changes. I log the engine hours on the sides of filters when I change them. I NEVER forget to write down what I have done.

Well, once I did: I installed a new powered subwoofer for my stereo. Turned out to be the day before I went skiing and broke my leg. When I came back 3 months later, the subwoofer didn't work. After hours of checking things, I popped the electrical panel and saw, to my astonishment, that I'd wired its power to the shower sump switch so I could turn it off and avoid the slight amp draw when I was up in the cockpit! :)

Write it down or lose it.

I, too, "hear" my engine, and can even tell when it's thrown a coupling bolt.

Our boats are pretty complicated machines. None of us was born a mechanic, electrician or plumber, but that's what we do.

If you don't know, buy a couple of books and learn how to do it. When a LOT of us started out, there was no internet, but they did have books.

No, Toto, high school isn't over after all. :)

Except for standing rigging, I don't have anyone else work on my boat. I have no idea how many "I had the yard do the work, and..." stories. If YOU don't know about it, please, find out, 'cuz it's YOUR sfaety and that of your guests.
 

TFU

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Jan 10, 2012
12
Hunter 37.5 Kingston, Ontario
With boating I personally don't think cost should be an issue. If it needs fixing fix it or wait on the hard until you can. There isn't any second chances out on the water. Think safety first. I dive as we'll and the best advice I ever got was to enjoy it but always be mindful of the risks and anticipate a problem and plan for it so your not surprised ( especially at 100' below the surface).
That being said I will replace hoses when they look tired or cracked. Clamps I replace at the first sign of rust. Yearly I replace the impeller whether it needs it or not. You can't tell when they are on the verge of breakdown and the consequences of a blocked water channel inside the engine is too much to contemplate. Oil/filter, yearly as well (I don't put a lot of hours on the engine to do it after the specified amount of time). Consider preventative maintenance as time/cost saving (eg greasing the through hull stop cocks yearly), best safety insurance.
Bigger stuff like the rudder stock, standing rigging, etc. is more difficult to make a clear cut decision. At least inspect them yearly. Some sailors don't do an inspection because they may not know what to look for or it takes too much time. The info is on web or in blogs such as this. Take the time, know your systems and learn, always learn.
Bill
 
Feb 6, 2013
437
Hunter 31 Deale, MD
The guy in the slip next to me removed his bilge pump float switch, cleaned it and re-installed it because it failed to activate once. If mine fails once, guess what, it gets replaced with a brand new one.

The raw water pump impeller gets replaced every Spring even if it looks great.
 

Les

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May 8, 2004
375
Hunter 27 Bellingham, WA
What a great idea! A boat that talks to me. I mean a Siri that says, (politely, of course) "Skipper, the fuel tank is below half." OR "Oh great one, it is time for an engine check up." My oh my, that would be fun. Why not a central computer in the boat that monitors all the systems and then gives me a heads up when I come on board. I have a keyless car now and it senses me when I am nearby. Why not my boat? Oh, this is too good. What a concept.

Stu always tells it like it is and this time he makes me feel guilty. I don't write anything down but probably should (at my age). But if my boat had a central computer I wouldn't have to worry about writing things down...

But Stu, you scare the h*** out of me--I don't want to do high school again. No, please. I'll write it down!!!! but no high school.
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
The guy in the slip next to me removed his bilge pump float switch, cleaned it and re-installed it because it failed to activate once. If mine fails once, guess what, it gets replaced with a brand new one.

The raw water pump impeller gets replaced every Spring even if it looks great.
That is a whole other thing. When my bilge pump float switch quit working I used the failure as an opportunity to replace the dated technology with a new WaterWitch contact pump switch. Same thing with my hard-to-access impeller pump. Boat system improvements are constantly evolving, many can decrease your maintenance woes.
 
Jul 28, 2010
914
Boston Whaler Montauk New Orleans
It would be great if BoatSiri could tell the skipper/helmsman "you are the stand on boat" or you need to give way to that boat on starboard tack." Of course, every boat would need one.
 
Dec 30, 2009
680
jeanneau 38 gin fizz sloop Summer- Keyport Yacht Club, Raritan Bay, NJ, Winter Viking Marina Verplanck, NY
All of my equiptment talks to me, you have to understand the language.. I have 2 cars and a truck, and a daughter with cars, I have learned I must go ahead and drive these other vehicles on a regular basis, I can tell right away when something is amiss. Same with my house, boat ect, I used to think it was a curse...because I could not let it go when I hear or feel a problem...its hard to explain, its almost like sometimes its a noise or vibration you don,t hear or feel, and you know something is wrong.I am not bragging, but at age 63 I could probably count on one hand things I have to bring to someone else to fix. I mean some of the really tech jobs, I can figure out and make a plan, and maybe because of specialty tools I may go to someone else, say tig weld ect....I listen to my gut, it will tell when the brake pads are ready, your first intuition or gut whatever you call it is ususally pretty close...anyway, if you listen these things will speak to you, listen and follow your intuition.....Red