Swing keel jam

Status
Not open for further replies.
Feb 19, 2012
2
Oday 25 ft Johnson Marina
I'm new to the ODay 25. The boat is at a slip in 10 ft of water, the rope keel line is slack and the swing keel will not deploy ... is this a common problem with this boat? ... what is the remedy? ... how do I prevent it from reacquiring?
Jim Bandle
Georgetown, SC
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Jim,
This is something that can happen to keel/centerboards sloops. It happened to my friend Wayne's Seaward 22 last year. He brought it to the dock and left some slack in the pendant line. While we were talking, the board dropped down. I had gone under water the previous week and tried unsuccessfully to free his board the previous week.
I have a keel/centerboard O'Day 222 and I haven't had this problem in years but when it did occur it was because I had let her ground out in shallow water. I have an 800 lbs lead keel with the centerboard inside.

What you have is an 1,825 lbs lead keel with a slot in the center for a fiberglass centerboard which pivots on a fiber pin. It's possible that marine growth could have built up around the inside edges of the slot and/or the centerboard, and it's constricting the board from dropping down. A more common occurrence is when the keel grounds out in mud and some small pebbles get in between the centerboard and keel slot.
You could try a couple of things that may free it up. I'm not sure what your board weighs but I think it's in the 60 lbs range. It's about 57.5" long and 18" wide.

If you leave about a foot or two of slack in your centerboard pendant line and cleat it off, just the weight of the board itself may cause it to eventually swing down and free itself if there is adequate boat traffic going by where she is slipped. If not, try taking her into some turbulent water to see if the pendant line tightens up. If it does tighten up, let the line off and let the board drop all the way down. Then raise the board slow until she binds a little and keep working the board until it clears itself to where you car raise it all the way up and lower it all the way down with no binding.

If this doesn't work, you'll have to get a diver to go down with a thin metal type object like a builder's square and stick it into the keel slot on both sides of the centerboard to clear out whatever if binding it up. You could also have the boat raised. If you opt for raising the boat you may as well check the centerboard pendant line and the shackle once you get the board down.
 

ebsail

.
Nov 28, 2010
241
O day 25 Nyack. New York
Get a diver to yank down on the pendant from under the boat and the board should drop We use a raised winter cradle which allows us to drop out the center board, clean out the interior of the center board trunk each year and paint it with bottom paint to reduce barnacle growth. Hasn't been stuck yet. It is essentially two upside down U shaped steel beams, about 36" off the ground, located under the front and rear edges of the keel on which the boat rests. This leaves the centerboard slot open. Four ordinary popits balance the boat. If anyone's interested, I'll take and post a photo.
 

toddco

.
Jun 17, 2011
96
ODay 20 driveway
If this doesn't work, you'll have to get a diver to go down with a thin metal type object like a builder's square and stick it into the keel slot on both sides of the centerboard to clear out whatever if binding it up. You could also have the boat raised. If you opt for raising the boat you may as well check the centerboard pendant line and the shackle once you get the board down.
I work on scales, and watched a service company clear the gap around a stuck truck scale with an old dull hand saw. It worked well, but you might want to go easy around the hinge pins.

Todd
 
Aug 4, 2009
204
Oday 25 Olympia
ebsail

I would very much like to see a pic of your supporting setup. How much if any deflection do you note in the beam? I have a tidal grid that I'm trying to adapt for the purpose. Exact positioning while the O'Day 25 is floating is going to be critical. With an ebbing tide I only get one chance to get it right! Any Ideas?

Thanks for your thoughts, Geohan
 

ebsail

.
Nov 28, 2010
241
O day 25 Nyack. New York
ebsail

I would very much like to see a pic of your supporting setup. How much if any deflection do you note in the beam? I have a tidal grid that I'm trying to adapt for the purpose. Exact positioning while the O'Day 25 is floating is going to be critical. With an ebbing tide I only get one chance to get it right! Any Ideas?

Thanks for your thoughts, Geohan
I'll be at the boat next week and snap a photo. These are reall strong pieces of steel for the cross beams and deflection is unnoticeable. Either of the two beams is capable of holding up the entire boat. My cross beams are 63" between the beams if I remember correctly and this is crtical. The keel needs to be in just the right place particularly on the aft end or you won't get the board out. Ernie
 

ebsail

.
Nov 28, 2010
241
O day 25 Nyack. New York
Here are a couple of photos of my cradle. Its a little confusing since there are 2 extra popits in use while I'm painting the jackstand areas on the hull. Note that the keel supports are about 36" off the ground and only touch the keel at the forward and aft ends of the keel. They are 63" apart.
 

Attachments

Status
Not open for further replies.