Surviving Odile

Dec 31, 2011
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Hunter Legend 35 La Paz BCS Mexico
We just made it through Odile and the aftermath is fellow sailors opinion of what you did right or wrong.
The winds were recorded at about 125 mph in the La Paz area, when we were expecting 60-70 mph.
I had stripped my boat to reduce wind-age and ran extra lines to the pilings. The biggest problem was that the marina staff allowed three 50-55 ft dive boats to tie up at the last moment, and on to 30ft finger slips. At 1 or 2am the dive boat tied up next to me was lift the dock above my toe rails and all the sailboats were heeling 45 degrees because the wind was now full abeam. This was driving the sailboats under the docks, bending and hanging stanchions and tearing up the sides, bumpers etc. The only solution I could think of was to run the spinnaker halyard across several small boats to starboard and tie my mast off from the wind. I also ran some extra lines and cut my boat from the finger dock as I the dive boat was ripping it apart. I then needed to seek shelter on a large cruise boat as it got very dangerous.
By next morning I was able to inspect my boat and the only damage was the Nexus anemometer lost its propeller and tail-fins. My boat had no other damage while most other sailboat has some kind of damage, mostly dock damage.
When recounting days later I have been barraged by experienced sailors stating what I did was wrong and to never tie off a mast. The wind was pushing my boat over acting mostly on the mast, I tied off the mast, holding the wind forces back; How could this damage my boat?
Is this an old sailors wives tale or is there some engineering to support never tying off the mast? Did I just get lucky?
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
7,204
Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
What you did worked. What you did you did because of a situation unique to you at that time at that place in those conditions. The upside is that you can have them all buy you refreshing beverages while they tell you what you did wrong while they fix their boats.

BTW, sorry to hear of the loss of life in the anchorage. You guys really did get ambushed. The damage to Cabo is awful. Apparently that thing did damage all the way up.
Lots of damage to boats in dry storage too. It'll take some time to recover. I trust you have supplies? I did read La Paz recovered its infrastructure pretty quickly.
 
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Dec 31, 2011
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Hunter Legend 35 La Paz BCS Mexico
Thanks for your answer. It did work this time and you've heard about fools and dogs. I suppose I will try the same thing again if it happens to blow that hard, unless someone can give me a better solution.

We are doing fine in La Paz, we did lose three cruisers, and they will be missed. The worst hit were the boats on the hook or moorings, as anchors were drug and lines snapped.
I haven't watched any TV, but have heard about the devastation down in the Southern tip and in Todos Santos.

I've only been a salt water sailor for a couple of years, and appreciate good advice and try to weed through the BS, then make my decision.
 
Feb 20, 2011
8,062
Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
Agree with Rick D, what you did worked. What reasons did these experienced sailors give?

In extraordinary circumstances, extraordinary measures.

Relief efforts are underway.
 
Dec 31, 2011
8
Hunter Legend 35 La Paz BCS Mexico
One just told me he would never tie off his mast because of stress.
The other told me that because my boat has a deck stepped mast it would cause structural damage to my boat.

I figured that because the wind is pushing my mast, I'm just holding it back. There is a French sailor here with many years sailing the world, and his boat suffered bent stanchions that night, he liked the idea and tied off his mast when were expecting a second blow this last week.
 
Jan 22, 2008
551
NorSea 27 Az., Doing the To-Do list
For a batch of photos (about 162 at this time). See the site put up by Club Cruceros at;
Club Cruceros de La Paz - Hurricane Odile Images

We lost three cruisers in the storm. One, Guenter Trebbow, was a good friend of ours.

Gunter's boat Princess is not in the photos. Princess was found way down near Club Marlin, sunk in 12 ft. Of water.

Greg

 
Jan 1, 2006
7,996
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
I don't know if right and wrong apply to 125 mph winds. You and your boat survived. That's right!
 
Jan 22, 2008
551
NorSea 27 Az., Doing the To-Do list
Hello all,

I recently posted about the passing of Guenter Trebbow, a fine cruiser, in La Paz Mexico during hurricane Odile. We count him as a good friend and are very sad at his passing. We will miss him greatly. During our stays in La Paz Mexico, on Sundays he would relate stories to us on the cruisers net.

A few people asked if we could post a link to any of his stories.
His son has given us permission to post one of the audio stories we recorded during our visit there in 2007. To let his voice echo on forever, we have posted one of his stories on our web site. For any one interested in getting to know Guenter just a little bit better, and enjoying just one of his great talents, you can find the story at;
http://www.svguenevere.com/2014/guenter/

I hope you enjoy the story as much as we did, laying in our bunk, gently rocking in La Paz, Mexico.

Greg

 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
3,198
1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
good news,thanks.
am fine. was not near baja, as i stay some 400-600 ish mass o menos miles from here, near manzanillo, where odile went from cat 2-4 in my 5 hours of sleep.
odile was far enough off shore to only give us massive rain and sailing wnd we ignored, mebbe to 46 kts.
baja, esp cabo was centepunched but l paz was given a flying backhanded *****slap from hell.
was cat 3 when hit cabo.
i watched a very fascinating video posted by a friend of mine that showed odile swallowng baja whole. is on fb and i do not know how to post it here.
odile was a monstrous storm, from cabo covering to the san felipe area. larger than cosme, which was 610 mi diameter.