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Joe Refkin, SV/Skooky 3 Cat 30

I have an 83 Cat 30 which I aquired at the end of last season. I had the holding tank pumped out for the first time today. I had been wondering how to tell when the tank was full and lo and behold the cushion on the left sette was pushed up. And oh yes the fiber board cover over the holding tank was pushed up because the holding tank had balooned up at the top. I thought this model's tank was vented. Either it was super full or the vent is clogged some where because the pump out cap was under a bit of pressure. forturnately I slowly opened it and got a pressure stream of sewage. After the fun was over, they were able to pump out the tank and my seat went back to normal. so.... how do I check the level in the tank and do you think I have a clog somewhere? And what should I do to remedy the situation. Thanks, Joe
 
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Peggie Hall/HeadMistress

I'd say your tank vent is definitely blocked

And that you're VERY lucky that the pressure in your tank didn't burst it. If you've used the boat for the entire season and have never pumped the tank out, it's no wonder that the vent is blocked...'cuz the tank has been overflowing out the vent most of the season--it's been full since prob'ly the 3rd or 4th weekend aboard...Sooner or later the buildup of waste in it had to clog it. The most likely places are the vent thru-hull and the vent hose connection on the tank. I doubt that the pumpout was actually able to empty your tank against blocked vent. You lost enough to relieve the pressure when you opened the deck pump fitting...that also allowed some air to replace it...so at best, the pumpout could only remove as much as it could until the air in the tank was exhausted--a gallon or two at most, at which point it pulled a vacuum that prevented it from getting any more out of the tank. How much is still left in your tank depends on how much spilled when you opened the deck fitting. Do NOT use the toilet or attempt to pump out the tank again until you've cleared the vent!!! A strong pumpout pulling against a blocked vent is even more likely to crack a tank than than pressurizing it. And once you've cleared it, check it regularly and backflush it every time you wash the boat to mak sure it never becomes clogged again. There are two ways to know when the tank is full: check it visually, or install a gauge. Since you haven't thought it necessary to pump out all season, it's obvious you don't have a clue about how long it takes to fill a tank...here's the math you need to do it: Assuming that you have a manual toilet (which prob'ly needs some maintenance too, but that's another subject), the average flush uses about a 1/2 gallon (64 oz) of flush water (that can be cut way down if you know how, but that too is another subject)...the average waste "deposit" is about another 8 oz...the average adult uses the toilet 5x day. So each person aboard will put an average of 72 oz x 5 uses/day into the tank, or 360 oz. A gallon, btw, is 128 oz., so that means each person will put an average of 2.81 gal/day into the tank. Assuming a 20 gallon tank, and two people aboard, that means the tank MIGHT last two weekends--and that's only if you use the marina facilities a few times. I dunno know what size your tank is, but using the math above should tell you about how long (my guess: since sometime during the Memorial Day weekend) you've been overflowing your tank out the vent. I'm only surprised it took this long for the vent to clog. The link below will teach you what you need to knw to prevent most "head aches" in the future.
 
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Joe Refkin, SV/Skooky 3 Cat 30

quick response

Thanks Peggy, I'm impressed with the quick response especially on a holiday week-end. The tank probably wasn't filled last spring. We avoid using the head and have yet to spend the week-end on the boat. The previous boat was much lighter and banged into the dock so much we didn't sleep well on the boat. We usually went home to sleep by 9a.m. and missed the next day's sail. I doubt if it was flushed more than 15 or 20 times all summer. Thanks again for your help, will comply. Joe
 
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Peggie Hall/HeadMistress

Overflowing isn't the only way to clog a vent

Dust, pollen, insects, dirt dauber nests are all common "culprits," which is why it's so important to check the vent regularly and keep it cleaned out. Nor is it necessary to overfill the tank to overflow it out the vent...heeling commonly sends waste overboard out the vent line. So not only is holding tank vent maintenance important, but so is attention to the water and fuel tank vents. 20 flushes = 11-12 gallons, btw. And totally unrelated, proper use of spring lines will keep a boat from banging against the dock. There is no "one size fits all" way to use spring lines...that depends on the boat, the dock, prevailing winds, any current and other factors. As for the quick reply, just a matter of timing...I log on in the mornings over my first cup of coffee, your post happened to be there. And your timing seems to be holding...'cuz I just came in from church and decided to see if you still had questions before changing clothes and tackling some yard work.
 
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