Suggest replacement for dripless packing seal?

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Mar 16, 2012
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Beneteau 321 Melbourne, FL
Hello all. I recently picked up a somewhat neglected '96 Oceanis 321 and am working my way though the jobs to get her back into shape.

I found that the packing seal was leaking a bit, so I tightened the hose clamp on the front of it (bear with me here) until it stopped and penciled in a to-do item for researching the thing a bit more for more complete service after the worst jobs were done. My previous boat had a stuffing box, so I wasn't familiar with this Volvo Penta system and apparently neither was my surveyor, because what he should have told me was there shouldn't be a hose clamp on the front of that seal.

My assumption at this point is that the previous owners have just ignored the seal, never greasing it on the recommended 200 hour schedule, and it probably is shot to hell. At some point it probably started leaking and someone slapped a hose clamp on the front of it. It's kind of amazing that that works at all considering the tapered shape of the front of that seal. I loosened it to see how bad it is and the solid stream of water shooting in is quite alarming. It wouldn't overwhelm the bilge pump, but we have moved way beyond drips here.

So, I'm guessing that I need to replace that whole thing, right? That's going to mean a haul out to pull the shaft? Or could it be replaced in the water since the shaft only has to be slid back enough for replacement, not pulled completely. I was thinking maybe something like plumbers putting could be packed around on the outside until the new unit was installed to minimize the water intrusion.

I haven't had much luck finding the same item for sale online, so is there a popular model that is used to replace it? Any recommendations from others who have been through this one already? I have a 25mm shaft, and there doesn't seem to be any that fit that in the store here on this site. The Tides Marine website does have a kit for a 25mm shaft, but they also need the stern tube size, which I don't know at this point.

I have a new prop coming in later this week that I was going to have a diver put on, but with this new situation, it sounds like I should just haul it out and do everything at once.
 
Oct 20, 2012
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beneteau 42S7 honolulu
When mine failed i replaced it with a dripless packing. Well engineered, easy to install. I did haul out to do mine but pretty sure you could do it in the water..
 

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Jul 8, 2005
522
Jeanneau 389 Grosse Pointe Farms, MI
Dripless is the way to go

We have a 2000 MY B321 and put a dripless seal on about 10 years ago. No issues.

We put a MaxProp on about 7 years ago. Love it. Much better than the 3 blade fixed prop.

Now we are looking around for how best to install air conditioning and a better fridge. I also need a fixed GPS map instead of my hand held one...

You will enjoy that boat!
 
Mar 16, 2012
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Beneteau 321 Melbourne, FL
When mine failed i replaced it with a dripless packing. Well engineered, easy to install. I did haul out to do mine but pretty sure you could do it in the water..
Something I noticed in your picture: the new seal has the water intake line connected directly to it, but on my current setup the line connects to the stern tube directly behind the seal. Was yours setup that way originally, too? If so, what did you do about the old intake stem fitting, just plug it?

Brad
 
Oct 20, 2012
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beneteau 42S7 honolulu
Something I noticed in your picture: the new seal has the water intake line connected directly to it, but on my current setup the line connects to the stern tube directly behind the seal. Was yours setup that way originally, too? If so, what did you do about the old intake stem fitting, just plug it?

Brad
The line you see is a vent to keep the deal flooded. I believe there are options to connect to a supply line if seal is not flooded naturally. My recollection is there was not any other fittings to plug. The web site has lots of info
 

AndyS

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Sep 26, 2009
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Beneteau 281 River Dunes, NC
I have a '96 Oceanis 281 so it's pretty similar to yours I would assume. When I got her she had a leaking stuffing box, and I replaced it with a Lasdrop dripless seal. It worked okay, but still leaked. In fairness to the company, I think that Lasdrops don't work so well on smaller engines that tend to vibrate. This spring I hauled her out and replaced the Lasdrop with a PSS dripless seal. Bingo! Not a drop of water so far. The PSS appears to be a very robust seal and I put a collar clamp on the shaft just forward of the seal as a safety measure in case the PSS collar slips. As of right now I would recommend PSS, and that is from someone who has had a stuffing box, a Lasdrop and now the PSS.
PS - I would not try replacing these while in the water or you might be the proud owner of a submarine!
 
Mar 16, 2012
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Beneteau 321 Melbourne, FL
I put on the PSS seal and it's been doing well for me, although I haven't actually motored much yet. It'll get a work out over Labor Day. I did put it on in the water and that went well, although nerve-wracking at first. Water came in at a good clip, but the bilge pump kept up easily and we had a second manual pump standing by just in case.

Never was sure what to do with my old water line, so I just left a few inches of the hose on the stern tube fitting and plugged it off, then ran the hose to the new PSS fitting.
 
Jul 8, 2005
522
Jeanneau 389 Grosse Pointe Farms, MI
Bstowers

One more thing you should do...on our 321, (2000 model), we had to align the engine with the output shaft which reduced vibration and also should be less stress on the shaft seal. There are adjustments under the engine to do this.
 
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