Stuffing Box

Dan

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Jul 26, 2006
190
Hunter 420 Stamford
Hi Dan here: Thank you for all the help! She leaks about 2 Liters
every 15 minuets. That is after you grease it. Really thought the
grease would take care of it, I lived with the leaking last season.
If I understand this right it should not leak in reverse if the
reverse tube is OK, right?
Thanks

Dan
 
Nov 8, 2001
1,818
Hi Dan

2 litres every 15 minutes is a lot. See my personal email to you about the control tube. It it leaks like that at all positions then the tube is probably OK, if it leaks only in the forward position then the tube is probably worn in that position (usual place for them to wear).

Regards

Steve Birch
 
Oct 31, 2019
562
Hi.:)
If I was you, I'd take the boat out of the water and fix it (new seals,
new bushings in
stuffing box and stern bearing).
Wilhelm, V-257

brockhaus77 wrote:
 
Sep 9, 2006
45
The stuffing 'box' (I don't think it looks much like a box!) leaks
badly! If I understand this correctly it is a dripless type that uses
grease and a seal to lube and seal the shaft. I sure wish I had a
regular ole fiber type that I could repack occasionally instead of
cleaning up the grease mess whenever I use my Volvo Penta! :(
Can I get the shaft out of the combi enough to slide the old 'box' off
and put a new box in its place .... all without hauling the boat out
of the water? I have enough confidence in the bilge pump to tolerate
some water leaking while I accomplish this feat of legerdomain. Can
someone give me the advantage of their experience in this area?
John
Sea Lake Yacht Sales
Service Dept
Southern Comfort Too
V2931
Clear Lake, Texas, USA
 
Nov 8, 2001
1,818
Hi John

Taking the shaft/tube out means taking the combi apart, not an easy job
and very difficult whilst in the water. Another reason I hate the combi!


There are instructions downloadable for the Group Site on how to remove
the combi, shaft and tube.

Cheers

Steve Birch (Technical)
 
Oct 31, 2019
562
Hi;
the kind of stuffing box in a Vega is the best I've ever
seen. With the shaft properly aligned and proper
maintenance, it should remain drip-less for years. I have
two stuffing boxes, one in place, and the other one for
reserve. I check the box whenever I haul the boat for a
bottom hob, and so far it has been my experience that I
exchange the reserve box with the one on at about every 5
years. I take the old one off, put in the 2 seals and the
bushings-put the 'reserve' one on, and I'm ready for next
time- in another 5 years or so).
Wilhelm, V-257
 
Nov 29, 2001
14
Hi John,

Are you and Carol going to the Houston In the Water Boat
Show at the end of the month? Come by and see me, I'll
be in booth #705.

Lori Treml
CinLor Tech
Vega #2491

John & Carol txsailcouple@... wrote: The stuffing 'box' (I don't think it looks much like a box!) leaks
badly! If I understand this correctly it is a dripless type that uses
grease and a seal to lube and seal the shaft. I sure wish I had a
regular ole fiber type that I could repack occasionally instead of
cleaning up the grease mess whenever I use my Volvo Penta! :(
Can I get the shaft out of the combi enough to slide the old 'box' off
and put a new box in its place .... all without hauling the boat out
of the water? I have enough confidence in the bilge pump to tolerate
some water leaking while I accomplish this feat of legerdomain. Can
someone give me the advantage of their experience in this area?
John
Sea Lake Yacht Sales
Service Dept
Southern Comfort Too
V2931
Clear Lake, Texas, USA
 
Oct 30, 2019
38
Where do you get these reserve stuffing boxes given
that there not the typical flax stuffed ones? So they
go by a particular name?
stacey
 
Sep 9, 2006
45
Hi Lori,
I'll probably be in a booth myself although I haven't gotten a # yet. Looking forward to meeting you there.
John
Southern Comfort Too
V2931

Sea Lake Yacht Sales.
Service Dept

Lori Treml ltreml@... wrote:
Hi John,

Are you and Carol going to the Houston In the Water Boat
Show at the end of the month? Come by and see me, I'll
be in booth #705.

Lori Treml
CinLor Tech
Vega #2491

John & Carol txsailcouple@... wrote: The stuffing 'box' (I don't think it looks much like a box!) leaks
badly! If I understand this correctly it is a dripless type that uses
grease and a seal to lube and seal the shaft. I sure wish I had a
regular ole fiber type that I could repack occasionally instead of
cleaning up the grease mess whenever I use my Volvo Penta! :(
Can I get the shaft out of the combi enough to slide the old 'box' off
and put a new box in its place .... all without hauling the boat out
of the water? I have enough confidence in the bilge pump to tolerate
some water leaking while I accomplish this feat of legerdomain. Can
someone give me the advantage of their experience in this area?
John
Sea Lake Yacht Sales
Service Dept
Southern Comfort Too
V2931
Clear Lake, Texas, USA
 
Oct 31, 2019
562
I used to get parts from FORS MARIN ALBIN MOTORDELAR
SPAREPARTS (Sweden), but I don't know if they still sell. I
also got parts from ALBIN ENGINES, 3464 NW N River Dr.
Miami, and as far as I know they still sell ALBIN parts.
You could also ask Steve in UK- he's always very helpful!
I myself have enough spare parts for my VEGA to last me
another life-time.
Wilhelm, V-257
 
May 3, 2004
34
Hi!

From Fors Marin you can get everything you need for your Albin ( I think) and also som stuff for the Penta. They also have some general parts that fits the Vega e.g. the zink anode on the propeller and the plug to the drainage of the keelson. You find them on www.forsmarin.se and there is information both in english and swedish.

They use the dealer that Wilhelm mention in the US. According to the homepage their name today is AME Ship equipment inc. and the phone number is + 1 305-635-2401. The adress as below.

Yours,

Björn
Vega 2757
 
Oct 15, 2015
206
Good day everyone. For preventative maintenance reasons I have decided to replace the stuffing box hose and gland nut packing as well as clamps while the vessel is on the hard for winter storage. Lots of info out there on what is best to use. Since I am unfamiliar with the products in use today I thought I might inquire on what is the best choice of product before I begin. The vessel has a 1gm10 yanmar with a 1' S/S shaft. My current choice of hose is the Buck Algonquin with GTU packing on the glad nut. Not sure the packing size yet since it is still assembled. If somebody knows this please advise. Are there better choices and products available? Any upgraded replacement products or retrofits that make more sense? Let me know.....Cheers Tim
 
Sep 13, 2002
203
About three years ago I threw away my stuffing box and went for a PSS shaft seal - 1GM10, absolutely brilliant, dry boat, no drips, very happy.AlisdairV752
 
Sep 24, 2008
346
I wouldn't use GTU packing on any shaft. It is a particular problem with bronze and stainless shafts, less so with Aquamet 22 shafts. The reason is that the graphite is at the top of the galvanic scale meaning any other metal - such as stainless - becomes the anode. ABYC specifically states that graphite packing should not be used as packing. I would stick with conventional flax packing.Here is a good link to replacing shaft packing. The warning is at the bottom of page 3.http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/stuffing_box&page=1
 
Feb 13, 2010
528
Some years ago I bought a boat that had Graphite packing at the
stern bearing and it was leaking and I adjusted it a couple times
and decided to replace the packing and found the shaft deeply
pitted with very sharp edged holes that would cut any packing to
pieces.. I had to replace the shaft. I for one am not
against having a little dripping into the boat.IN a Vega It goes
in the bilge and an occasional pumping is not a problem. I am
still using the original using the origona system on my Vega and
with an occasional pump of oil or grease it works a charm with
almost no leaking. DOUG



On 01/14/2016 10:12 PM, Brian Stannard brianstannard@...
[AlbinVega] wrote:
 
Sep 13, 2002
203
Completely maintenance free. I give it a check from time to time to ensure the faces are clean, but that\'s no more than a wiggle of the gaiter.Current price seems to be about £200, $300Alisdair
 
Sep 24, 2008
346
A PSS shaft seal is around $200. As far as maintenance the bellows should be changed every 5 to 7 years. This requires pulling the shaft.
 
Oct 30, 2019
1,459
Hi Tim,I have a Yanmar 2GMF with 1" SS shaft in the Ballad. I put in a Volvo Penta Shaft Seal.They are dead simple, require a shot of grease under the seal lip once a year, and have no moving parts or adjustments. It slips over the shaft tube with a clamp and rides on the shaft with a couple of internal hard rubber seals. Mine hasn't leaked a drop in 30 months. When you put the boat into the water you just give the seal a squeeze to burp the air out and it's good to go. They are supposed to be good for 5 years, but many people report a lot longer life span.They are available in multiple shaft tube ~ shaft sizes, as per the link above. Toad Marine sells them in the US. I would go this way gain in a heartbeat.Hope this helps,PeterPS I have no financial interest in Volvo ;-)Also ... it's not recommended if you use a flexible shaft coupling.