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[Tom Hoffman]

Hi Everyone,

Finally yesterday, I managed to get the boat cleaned out and the mast off and down on saw horses.

First thing I noticed was a lack of a bolt to join the mast to the step bracket on the top of the cabin. What type of bolt or pin should I get?

All the lines are probably original (that means 32 years old) what should I replace them with. What colors for what jobs, what lengths etc.

My mast is 28'4" total length. There are two pulleys in the mast head one fore and one aft. All the wire rigging seems to be there, but I have not gone over it with a fine tooth comb yet.

I did find a real nice Danforth Anchor with chain rode and what looks like at least 100-150' of 3/4" nylon line attached to the chain. Have another 15 lb plastic anchor filled with what sounds like lead shot.

I want to put a mast head light on the mast as well as an antenna for the radio which I don't have yet. What kind of radio should I look for?

I know this is a lot, but you guys have come through like champs with help before.

Thanks,

Tom...

 

[cephius (Dave)]

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Hi Tom,
I wouldn't want to advise you on the mast step pin without seeing it (photos?)

Use 1/2", low stretch line for halyards. Most use white with a color strand. As long as the main and jib halyards have different color strands, it doesn't matter what color you choose. Be sure the 'pulleys' at the mast head will support width your new line before making a big purchase.

The main sheet can be the same.

If your hardware will handle it, use 5/8" jib sheets. Choose a line that is easier on the hand then the one used for the halyards. Don't go too soft, or it will snag and run. I like to use solid red and green lines on me jib sheets.

If you go to the web sites for the marine rope makers you can get good info on lines for a 26' boat.

There are many good VHF radios to choose from. Since you will be in inland waters you won't need any of the high end, state of art features. No reason not to look for a deal.

 

[Tom Hoffman]

Hey Dave, This post was aimed at you. I wanted to get the new lines and other stuff, before I asked you to come down to help me rig her. I will check for lines like you suggested.

Thanks,

Tom...

I will shoot a couple of pics of the mast step end and the step plate tomorrow and get them posted here.

 

[Tom Hoffman]

Here are the pictures that should make things more clear. I did see that there are no pulleys in the mast head. There are suppose to be are there not? The bolts are there.

See the last 16 pictures on this link.

http://sports.webshots.com/album/576734303qkPIkj?start=84

Thanks,

Tom...

 

[sinnettc]

looks pretty similar to the mast step on my Capri 22. Mine uses a partially threaded hex bolt and a wing nut.

 

[cephius (Dave)]

halyards

I can't see the full mast in the pictures. The parts I can see don't seem to have the openings for internal halyards.

This means the halyards have to go up one side of the mast, over a set of blocks (pulleys) and back down the other side of the mast. (or down the same side for the jib.)

Can you actually see all the way through the mast head to verify the blocks are missing?

 

[Tom Hoffman]

Yep, the sheaves are not in there. The axels are gone too. I ordered new sheaves today and am in the act of calculating the lengths of lines for the main and jib. The jib sheets are on the old jib, so I can measure from them. I will also need new line for the boom vang.

I have found out that there is wire rope to pull up the jib and then through the head and down the other side attached to a down haul halyard. I laid everything out today, didn't get them measured though.

I have one broken spreader boot, need to get a replacemnt for that. Most of the small clevis pins are missing too. All the standing rigging wire is there. It's mostly small stuff that is gone.

 

[dscribner]

Tom,

Dave's thumbnail doesn't look right. I think your mast is just like mine. Both halyards cross over the top in opposite directions. I have 2 sheaves on each pin with a spacer that runs between all of them. As far as the pin goes, I used a 1/2" SS bolt last year. I made a new tabernacle so this year I'm using a fixed pin in an "L" shaped tabernacle slot. It works wick'd good. (Maine after all)

With the halyards, mine are spliced to wire rope so only SS rides on the sheaves and only yacht braid goes on the winch. When I replace them, I'll get VERY different colors. "The blue one Honey, the pretty blue one. Never mind what it's called, just wrap it around the round thingy."

 

[Tom Hoffman]

Tom,

Dave's thumbnail doesn't look right. I think your mast is just like mine. Both halyards cross over the top in opposite directions. "

I talked to a guy in Fl. today who had two boats like mine and he told me the same thing as you. I have the wire roap 2 pieces, not sure how to get it like you are talking about. I am working with a fellow from West Marine, suppose to be a rigging whiz, he will probably know. He mentions something of the sort to me today too. All of this is so new, I have never rigged a boat before.

Thanks,

Tom....

 

[Steve Dion]

You really do not want to use 1/2" lines on this boat.

Check out the this websites store. The largest line that it callls for is 7/16". You will have problems with oversized lines and it will cost you a lot more than it needs to. Most of the lines should be 5/16" and 3/8".

 

[Sumner]

Most of the lines should be 5/16" and 3/8".

I agree. Most of ours are 3/8. A little larger than needed, but comfortable in the hands. A good compromise in my opinion. These were suggested to us when we got the boat and we have been very happy with them. Saying that we did get some 5/16 recently to use on some of the less used lines like our preventers and furling lines.

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[sailingdog]

Why would you recommend 1/2" line for 26' boat halyards? 3/8" is far more likely to fit and more than sufficient in both terms of strength and handling, especially if he's going with a high-tech line like Polyspec.

Again... WTF with 5/8" jib sheets? On a 26' boat, 3/8" or 7/16" for a bit nicer handling should be sufficient.

As for a good VHF, any of the new DSC capable units would probably work quite well. I'm partial to Standard Horizon and iCom.

Hi Tom,
I wouldn't want to advise you on the mast step pin without seeing it (photos?)

Use 1/2", low stretch line for halyards. Most use white with a color strand. As long as the main and jib halyards have different color strands, it doesn't matter what color you choose. Be sure the 'pulleys' at the mast head will support width your new line before making a big purchase.

The main sheet can be the same.

If your hardware will handle it, use 5/8" jib sheets. Choose a line that is easier on the hand then the one used for the halyards. Don't go too soft, or it will snag and run. I like to use solid red and green lines on me jib sheets.

If you go to the web sites for the marine rope makers you can get good info on lines for a 26' boat.

There are many good VHF radios to choose from. Since you will be in inland waters you won't need any of the high end, state of art features. No reason not to look for a deal.

 

[dscribner]

Tom,

I was just thinking. I saw someplace, maybe Sail mag or someplace, a fellow that offered halyar "kits". The was the wire rope spliced in. I'll look around and see if I can find the ad. This is probably common. I really don't know. And as far as the 5/8" jib sheet goes, that's about the size of ours. It's nice to handle and fuzzy. SO, I guess that's nice and fuzzy. Do we need it that size? Probably not but with the amount of time that is spends in our hands, it's probably easier on them.

Don

 

[Tom Hoffman]

Don, Thanks for all the help. I am really learning a lot by doing this myself. Not too many riggers here in the mid west. I am in communication with a guy from west marine. He is putting an order together for me. Luckily, I have examples of all the stuff that was original with the boat. Most is in remarkably good shape for being 32 years old.

My jib sheets are probably 1/2 - 5/8ths also. They sure seem large. The one jib that I have with sheets on it, they are 25' long on each side. Seems long to me, but probably isn't by the time it runs through all the blocks etc.

Tom...

 

[dscribner]

Well, figure this. From the clew of the sail (roller furler?) down to the toe rail, thru a block and all the way back to the cockpit with enough to hold onto, wrap around the winch and flow past the mast when you're wing on wing. That's pretty close to 25' on a 26' boat. They sound perfect. If they are soft to the touch it's even better. You'll handle those more than your prom date. OK, I married mine. Almost 29 years ago now.

Gotta ask. Do you play Euchre?

 

[Tom Hoffman]

Can barely play 500, euchre, what's that? Never had much card sense. Now as I get older, what sense I do have is not enough to pay attention most days.

Have a good one.

Tom...