I find this forum extremely valuable and hope to get some responses on this topic. Anyone who sails a 240 or 23.5 knows that they have a lot of interior space for that size boat. I wondered if any owners have created storage areas, cabinets, bins, hammocks, and the like which they could recommend to others. I intend to try a variation on the Cabinet Storage in h240 Posted by Tom Adams in the Photo Forum. But I wonder if there are there other solutions out there just waiting to be shared? If so, then I'd sure like to know about them. Best to all and hoping to hear from other 240/23.5 sailors with great ideas! - Ed
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One of my better ideas..
I don't have many good ideas, but one of my better inspirations helped solve a little of the lack of storage on my 23.5. I had a local sheet metal shop (they're primarily engaged in making furnace ducting) bend up shallow storage boxes that suspend in each of the storage lockers (five total). These are about 4" deep, and are just slightly smaller than the length and width of the nominal measurements of the opening to the lockers (they are all the same size). Each tray has a lip about a 1/2" wide extending outward from the top edge on all four sides. The lip suspends the tray in the recess around the opening, which was molded to support the wood locker cover. The thin metal (the guage used for duct pipes) does not materially affect the flush seating of the wood cover. I painted the trays to match the interior color (there is a color made by Painter's Choice brand spray paints that are found in many stores, such as True Value and Ace, which is nearly a precise match to the interior color). In several of the trays I put dividers made of 1/4" plywood. I use them for all kinds of things, especially small items like toiletries, eating utinsils, tools, etc. The trays keep all of these miscellaneous items from getting lost in the storage lockers. The trays can be lifed out to access larger items kept in the storage lockers below the trays.
I don't have many good ideas, but one of my better inspirations helped solve a little of the lack of storage on my 23.5. I had a local sheet metal shop (they're primarily engaged in making furnace ducting) bend up shallow storage boxes that suspend in each of the storage lockers (five total). These are about 4" deep, and are just slightly smaller than the length and width of the nominal measurements of the opening to the lockers (they are all the same size). Each tray has a lip about a 1/2" wide extending outward from the top edge on all four sides. The lip suspends the tray in the recess around the opening, which was molded to support the wood locker cover. The thin metal (the guage used for duct pipes) does not materially affect the flush seating of the wood cover. I painted the trays to match the interior color (there is a color made by Painter's Choice brand spray paints that are found in many stores, such as True Value and Ace, which is nearly a precise match to the interior color). In several of the trays I put dividers made of 1/4" plywood. I use them for all kinds of things, especially small items like toiletries, eating utinsils, tools, etc. The trays keep all of these miscellaneous items from getting lost in the storage lockers. The trays can be lifed out to access larger items kept in the storage lockers below the trays.
Stovage ideas for 240
Hi Ed! Yes, we made a lot of modifications for better space in our 240. I put some pictures and explaining texts on the Photo Forum today.
Hi Ed! Yes, we made a lot of modifications for better space in our 240. I put some pictures and explaining texts on the Photo Forum today.
thanks!
dale and per, thanks for the great ideas. i see the stowage bins are common in both responses. per, a couple of your photos didn't open. might be a name/language problem with your JPG files. great photos though. thanks again, ed
dale and per, thanks for the great ideas. i see the stowage bins are common in both responses. per, a couple of your photos didn't open. might be a name/language problem with your JPG files. great photos though. thanks again, ed
I, too...
I also had trouble opening the last picture, Per. That would be the view of the port setee compartment. The other pictures were wonderful, and the ideas and craftsmanship are superb. I trust you won't mind my copying some of them. You know what they say: copying a great idea is the truest form of flattery! Or something like that.
I also had trouble opening the last picture, Per. That would be the view of the port setee compartment. The other pictures were wonderful, and the ideas and craftsmanship are superb. I trust you won't mind my copying some of them. You know what they say: copying a great idea is the truest form of flattery! Or something like that.
Another try
OK! it is probably the filenamne with dots and small rings over (åäö, i hope that you can see them) that causes problems, I give you the port settee another time. By the way - thankyou for your positive response.
OK! it is probably the filenamne with dots and small rings over (åäö, i hope that you can see them) that causes problems, I give you the port settee another time. By the way - thankyou for your positive response.
Second try worked...
Good picture, and more good ideas. Thanks. Is that carpeting I see on the cabin sole? Did you install it? What kind? Is it glued down?
Good picture, and more good ideas. Thanks. Is that carpeting I see on the cabin sole? Did you install it? What kind? Is it glued down?
Per is a true craftsman
Per, Excellent improvements! The photos were great. I wish I had the time and talent to do the same on mine! Do the drawers in the Vberth latch into the track so they don't slide around when heeling? Did you glue/epoxy everything to the hull that was attached?
Per, Excellent improvements! The photos were great. I wish I had the time and talent to do the same on mine! Do the drawers in the Vberth latch into the track so they don't slide around when heeling? Did you glue/epoxy everything to the hull that was attached?
Answers to Ken and Dale
Ken; The drawers in the V-berth have no extra stops, the fitting is so easy that they can turn some degrees and then they normally stop themselves when healing. The two aluminum profiles bearing the drawers are screwed respectively bolted to the fore and aft sides of the box. Dale; Yes it is a carpet, I think that you can see more of it in my photo forum article “Swedish Table Solution”. We got tired of looking at a cabin floor that never looked real clean and it is nice to put ones bare feet on. We also have a small extra piece as a door-carpet by the steps. I would never glue a carpet into a boat, it will always get wet and you need a good vacuum cleaner to keep it tidy, now it is easy to bring it out in the cockpit for cleaning. The carpet is said to be good for boats, it has a strong structure that doesn’t need securing the edges and the pile is of the closed, non-cut type.
Ken; The drawers in the V-berth have no extra stops, the fitting is so easy that they can turn some degrees and then they normally stop themselves when healing. The two aluminum profiles bearing the drawers are screwed respectively bolted to the fore and aft sides of the box. Dale; Yes it is a carpet, I think that you can see more of it in my photo forum article “Swedish Table Solution”. We got tired of looking at a cabin floor that never looked real clean and it is nice to put ones bare feet on. We also have a small extra piece as a door-carpet by the steps. I would never glue a carpet into a boat, it will always get wet and you need a good vacuum cleaner to keep it tidy, now it is easy to bring it out in the cockpit for cleaning. The carpet is said to be good for boats, it has a strong structure that doesn’t need securing the edges and the pile is of the closed, non-cut type.
Galley Question for Per
Per, Great job on your boat - but can you give more details on the galley rebuild? What did you do with the water tank and the useless factory filler? Did you put a water tank in the cockpit hatch, or do I misunderstand? What is that hanging on the headliner behind the sink in your picture? Again - bravo on the fine work.
Per, Great job on your boat - but can you give more details on the galley rebuild? What did you do with the water tank and the useless factory filler? Did you put a water tank in the cockpit hatch, or do I misunderstand? What is that hanging on the headliner behind the sink in your picture? Again - bravo on the fine work.
Some small project ideas
Hi Ed, I added a few things, but not as elaborate nor as well-crafted as Per's; see attached link. Obviously, Hunter left us a lot to work with in this department. Mike
Hi Ed, I added a few things, but not as elaborate nor as well-crafted as Per's; see attached link. Obviously, Hunter left us a lot to work with in this department. Mike
Galley answer
Hanging on the headliner? six shortlegged wineglasses from IKEA. When we are hawing dinner we refuse to drink wine or a nice Carlsberg beer from anything other than a real glass, I think that you can see them better on my table solution article in the photo forum. I will come back with the answers concerning the water tank in some days. As english is not my primary language I think I´ll better consult my dictionary before writing articles about plumbing. I saw that Mike had installed centerboard guides to the trailer - did you like them?, they look far more stabile then mine. Has anyone else made this improvement?
Hanging on the headliner? six shortlegged wineglasses from IKEA. When we are hawing dinner we refuse to drink wine or a nice Carlsberg beer from anything other than a real glass, I think that you can see them better on my table solution article in the photo forum. I will come back with the answers concerning the water tank in some days. As english is not my primary language I think I´ll better consult my dictionary before writing articles about plumbing. I saw that Mike had installed centerboard guides to the trailer - did you like them?, they look far more stabile then mine. Has anyone else made this improvement?
Water Tank Installation
Here comes the answer about the installation of the larger water tank, I think that you can see most of the described parts in my articles in the Photo Forum. The 14.5-gallon plastic tank measures 22x15x11.5 inches. It will pass through the hole for the sink and stove. With everything cleared out from the galley it fits with 2-3 inches left to the hull inside, there lies the electric pump. The pump is a simple inline type, which I bought on the camper-trailer shop together with the faucet with integrated contact. The nice thing with the electric pump is that one is free to work with booth hands. The tank is fixed with a wooden frame lying flush with the top surface, see related photo. Then I clad the frame and tank with thin plywood laminated with a white coating; I left a slot in front as a tank meter. On top there is a round plastic piece covering the large lid for tank cleaning. In the lower outside corner on the front side I put the hose going to the pump, it is easy to really empty the tank by leaning the boat to port. On the topside, aft inner corner I put the ventilation hose going in a high curve before it connects to a trough hull fitting just aft of the sink outlet. In the middle of the starboard side I put a hose fitting for the filling. The fitting goes through a hole in the wall between the galley and the footstep. There I connected the filling hose, one inch wide and 7 feet long with a lid in the end. I just take it up in the cockpit for filling with hose or bucket and funnel - when the tank is filled the overflow goes out through the ventilation and then the hose goes back into the footstep. Between the tank and the hatch there is a "ditch" where we keep the vacuum bottle, the pitcher, the cutting board etc. The knife drawer is a standard IKEA with one row removed and a wooden handle added. The rebuilding of the hatch is just perfect - we never use the big one. As a bonus (or for fun) I built a kitchen roll holder (the non-rolling type), it is accessible both from the cabin and from the cockpit. The LPG container (one-gallon, keeps us going for 10-14 days) for the stove is placed in the aft locker, following EU-regulations connected with copper-pipe. On a boat with limited stability as the 240 the frame around the pots is essential for safety, I remade one from a larger stove that was scrapped by a friend. Good luck! and please let me know if you used any of my ideas.
Here comes the answer about the installation of the larger water tank, I think that you can see most of the described parts in my articles in the Photo Forum. The 14.5-gallon plastic tank measures 22x15x11.5 inches. It will pass through the hole for the sink and stove. With everything cleared out from the galley it fits with 2-3 inches left to the hull inside, there lies the electric pump. The pump is a simple inline type, which I bought on the camper-trailer shop together with the faucet with integrated contact. The nice thing with the electric pump is that one is free to work with booth hands. The tank is fixed with a wooden frame lying flush with the top surface, see related photo. Then I clad the frame and tank with thin plywood laminated with a white coating; I left a slot in front as a tank meter. On top there is a round plastic piece covering the large lid for tank cleaning. In the lower outside corner on the front side I put the hose going to the pump, it is easy to really empty the tank by leaning the boat to port. On the topside, aft inner corner I put the ventilation hose going in a high curve before it connects to a trough hull fitting just aft of the sink outlet. In the middle of the starboard side I put a hose fitting for the filling. The fitting goes through a hole in the wall between the galley and the footstep. There I connected the filling hose, one inch wide and 7 feet long with a lid in the end. I just take it up in the cockpit for filling with hose or bucket and funnel - when the tank is filled the overflow goes out through the ventilation and then the hose goes back into the footstep. Between the tank and the hatch there is a "ditch" where we keep the vacuum bottle, the pitcher, the cutting board etc. The knife drawer is a standard IKEA with one row removed and a wooden handle added. The rebuilding of the hatch is just perfect - we never use the big one. As a bonus (or for fun) I built a kitchen roll holder (the non-rolling type), it is accessible both from the cabin and from the cockpit. The LPG container (one-gallon, keeps us going for 10-14 days) for the stove is placed in the aft locker, following EU-regulations connected with copper-pipe. On a boat with limited stability as the 240 the frame around the pots is essential for safety, I remade one from a larger stove that was scrapped by a friend. Good luck! and please let me know if you used any of my ideas.
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Looks like a great spring project.
Thanks again, Per. Very good photos and text. Thanks for sharing your ideas.
Thanks again, Per. Very good photos and text. Thanks for sharing your ideas.
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