Storrage Space

Oct 10, 2010
269
Hunter H260 Gull Lake
Under the captains chair there is a locker that stores the gas tank, steering cables etc...

The previous owner had some pieces of wood siliconed around the edge that I assumed was for a shelf. This would divide up that area to allow for better use of that space. I want to store my Butane (for the stove) and Propane (for the BBQ) in this vented area. It gets these potential dangers out of the cabin.

What I wanted was a shelf that would still serve its purpose and also allow for easy access to the bottom of the locker. I decided on a three panel shelf. I made a prototype out of cardboard and then transferred the dimensions into a CAD program and had a waterjet cut the shelves out of 1/4" aluminum as well as a second shelf out of 1/8" aluminum just in case. In the last pic you can see the three shelf design. It works very well with no sag or movement. The back piece has a small lip under it that helps support the forward two pieces.

Next, I didn't want to have to remove one of the sections of the shelf every time I had to open or close the vent on the gas tank which is under the shelf. I used a couple of pieces of plastic conduit and made a tool that extends up through the shelf (pics 4 and 5). When I had the waterjet cut out the shelves, I added a hole to secure the vent tool. You can see it poking up in the third pic.

In order to store the gasses and have them secure, I used some 2 1/2" Styrofoam. I wanted to store 2 Butane bottles and 3 Propane cylinders. I made a drawing in CAD and had a CNC router machine out the pockets to hold the bottles. I then used some double sided tape to secure the Styrofoam to the shelf.

The last pic shows the Styrofoam storage holding the bottles in place and was taken outside the locker. I used this set up last year and it worked very well. I am considering going to a 11lb propane bottle which will require some modification to this design.
 

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Aug 21, 2009
15
Hunter 22 Oak Park, IL
Very nice. It looks like you can pull the two shelves to withdraw the gas tank and leave the third shelf in with the propane and butane?
 
May 25, 2004
958
Hunter 260 Pepin, WI
New fuel tanks

shanker, Check out the new outboard tanks available. They no longer have manual twist vents in the cap. It requres a new tank and hose combination, however I feel the new hose connections are better.
You would not need to access the fuel tank every time you start/stop the outboard.
 
Jan 18, 2014
238
Hunter 260 Palm Coast, FL
Organizing storage space

Shanker; What an excellent idea, the organizer and to give the fuel cartridges a good place to store. Yes, there is so much wasted space under the captains chair and I was wondering if my both 3 gallon tanks there are not well sized.

I bought a funnel with a large hose to fill them without taking them out but it's a messy job.
I will take your idea and put my butane cartridges there too. How did you form the Styrofoam? Why Styrofoam? How about doing the form out of a little bit more solid material?

Your first picture shows some bolted screws going through the lid. Did you put a chair atop? Have you found a way to put/organize the companionway board when sailing? Just wondering.

cephius (Dave), could you post a picture or link regarding a new tank you were talking about?
Thanks
 
Oct 10, 2010
269
Hunter H260 Gull Lake
Shanker; What an excellent idea, the organizer and to give the fuel cartridges a good place to store. Yes, there is so much wasted space under the captains chair and I was wondering if my both 3 gallon tanks there are not well sized.

I bought a funnel with a large hose to fill them without taking them out but it's a messy job.
I will take your idea and put my butane cartridges there too. How did you form the Styrofoam? Why Styrofoam? How about doing the form out of a little bit more solid material?

Your first picture shows some bolted screws going through the lid. Did you put a chair atop? Have you found a way to put/organize the companionway board when sailing? Just wondering.

cephius (Dave), could you post a picture or link regarding a new tank you were talking about?
Thanks
Regular Guy,

There is a Captains Chair added to the top of the locker seat (Pic #1). What you see is the underside of the lid that the chair is bolted to (Pic#2). I used 1/4" aluminum as a backing plate to strengthen the plastic seat. It's been on for two years and no issues. It has cushions that I am repairing and thickening at the moment.

I used the Styrofoam simply as a test material. I wanted to make sure that it fit and worked as planned before I machined one out of wood. I've found this to work very well. It's light and moisture does not affect it. I used it all last year and it is plenty strong enough. The boat was on a hook for a pretty serious storm and the cylinders all held in place. The form I designed around the shape of the cylinders. I took some measurements and drew it out in a CAD program. I took this to a CNC router and it machined the entire piece. I had actually machined another piece that slips over the top to help secure the cylinders but I discovered that it was not needed. That single piece works fine.

Ahhh the companionway! I have been trying to come up with an easy design for ease of access and storage. I am close to finishing a mock up of a rolling screen that will simply retract into a tube shape and can be stored very easily. The previous owner has a shelf/rack that is attached to the inside wall next to the companionway. It is for the four pieces of the existing board. They only fit in one way and it becomes a puzzle for most, and myself at times. I simply get tiered of removing or installing four boards every time. I believe this can be purchased as I have seen it on other boats. I am also playing with a folding door idea. More on that later. I did come up with a one piece screen that I cut out on a waterjet. Personalized it a little. I use it at night to keep bus out. I like it but storing it can become a little awkward at times. I have a nice spot in the back hanging locker in the head where I place it. Here is the link to the thread about it.

http://forums.hunter.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=893089&highlight=companionway screen

As for refueling, I too have a rather long funnel that I keep down in the bottom of the locker. Now I only remove the top right section of the shelf and it's an easy job. I'm lucky and don't use up the initial 5 - 8 gallons that I put in the tank in May.

No different than most everyone with a sailboat...I have a list of about 15 - 20 projects listed on my white board in the shop that I'm working on. I try to do most of the work in the winter so I can sail in the summer.:dance:
 

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Jan 18, 2014
238
Hunter 260 Palm Coast, FL
Organizing space

shanker,
thank you for your reply. I thought that you may have put a real captain chair, looks great. I was thinking of how it would be putting a chair there, steering from the railing seat is not very comfortable. The lid seems still to open well or have you to take the chair off.
I have read your thread about the companion way screen; amazing. Clever the carving in the aluminum to attach the screen rubber. Ideas and good tools can make amazing things. You are very good. I could use a companion way screen on my boat too, here in Florida it can get very sticky.
Your planned project list contains probably some very interesting, useful stuff. Organizing the limited space on board is a challenging task. So much fun working on our sailboat passion.

On a side note. My son took a job in Red Deer but they asked him then to go to Grande Prairie, where he still is since 5 years.
Hart
 
Jun 8, 2004
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Hart;

Please note the backing plate for the chair and suggest that a locking mechanism be attached cause if you lean to port, that hatch will come up and over and you will fall out. I did this a long time ago for a fellow who was partially paralyzed who was at first puzzled but his wife was so very thankful for latching that locker lid which the seat was attached to.
 
Jan 18, 2014
238
Hunter 260 Palm Coast, FL
Good point, Dave.
I am not planning to add a captain chair at the time. There are other priorities, but will remember that when the time comes. Thanks,
Hart
 
Jan 18, 2014
238
Hunter 260 Palm Coast, FL
New Fuel Tank System

Here is a link to the company site.
http://www.attwoodmarine.com/store/category/portable-fuel0

It looks like these are widely available: Walmart, amazon, ebay.
cephius (Dave),
thanks for the info and link. The drawing at the link shows a different fuel connector as I have (picture of two prong connector). I thought my fuel feed has already fuel and tank air venting in one hose and I would be good regarding the new EPA rules. That would be the question is the second prong for fuel return or air. I really don't know. Maybe the connector I have is still accepted and they just improved the fuel tank system. Does someone know?
Hart
 

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May 25, 2004
958
Hunter 260 Pepin, WI
One is a guide pin, the other is the fuel valve. That is one of several common fuel hose connectors.

The hose is only fuel. The air vent is for the tank, not for feeding or venting the outboard motor.

The new EPA standards eliminate the tank vent and require the tank to be manufactured to stand the expansion summer heat causes without bursting. This can cause the excess fuel pressure and flooding that link talks about. The 'on-demand' valve provided by Attwood limits this issue.