stepping mast

efr272

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Sep 16, 2014
5
Oday 272 Oshkosh
When stepping the mast does the order of which you attach the shrouds and stays matter?
 
Jan 14, 2014
225
Newport Newport 28 Fair Haven, NY
The order shouldn't matter, unless you're on a hinged mast step, in which case it likely comes from the stern and up. In that case, you'll want the backstay attached just because, but loose. Not every mast can be raised and lowered with the shrouds attached, but if yours is one that can, you can do those too, loosely, to help with the side-to-side action a bit.

If yours is one that's crane'd into place, it won't matter what order you go in, they'll all line up as you tighten once it's in place.
 

geehaw

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May 15, 2010
231
O-day 25 shoal keel Valdez
I have a 25 and when I step mine Shrouds and forstay are already connected so only one left is back stay. 272 different?
 
May 22, 2004
77
Oday 23 Bullock's Cove, RI
I have an Oday 23 and used to lift the mast from the front. Like Geehaw, all the stays were attached but loose. Raising/lowering the mast is a two person job and I use a sheet connected to the triangle plate on the backstay to help with the lifting/lowering.

One word of caution ...... when raising the mast make sure that the turnbuckles are oriented correctly and are free to move in the right direction as the mast is raised and the shrouds begin to tighten - if they are not then it is easy to bend the screw in the turnbuckle. As we raise the mast we are watching each of the turnbuckles to make sure they are free and clear to move.
Once the mast is up and the backstay is attached I begin to tighten all the turnbuckles, first to take up the slack, then hand tight and then look at the mast and tighten to keep it straight and vertical all the way up.
I check everything after a shakedown sail when everything gets seated and stretched out. Here is a link to a good overview which covers all the bases about masts and rigging tuneups.
http://www.thecoastalpassage.com/petrearigging.html
for a more detailed explanation I'd receommend this youtube video..... everything you ever wanted to know about rigging...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuhVrb1gI04
Hope this helps.
James
 

Pat

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Jun 7, 2004
1,250
Oday 272LE Ninnescah Yacht Club, Wichita, Ks.
It has been 7 years or so since we took the mast down on my 272...here is what I remember...the piviot hinge at the base of the mast directs the mast to fall toward the stern.....(fall is a bad word)....lower....we loosened all the side stays and told my wife to hang on to the forestay as we disconnected it at the stem head at the bow...we told my wife to hang on to the forestay and to 'not let go' and she did not....but she did leave the deck ....we had like two people holding the mast from on the cabin top and two in the back of the boat....it went very well but is a much heavier mast than I would have believed...do not tell your wife and children to hang on...as they may be airborne and your mast could easily be damaged....we did this at the slip...I think if I were doing again, we might do it at the crane....& .I need to do it again to find out why the masthead light works only infrequently.....a real pain ....good luck.....remember it pivots aft and you need some friends to help...I also think it's possible we disconnected the
lower shrouds and loosened the outer shrouds a lot....Good luck1
 
Dec 7, 2014
17
O'day 272 LE Lake Lanier
Why not use a battery operated winch temporarily secured to the bow and an A-frame mounted at 90 degrees to the mast to slowly raise / lower the mast single handily?
 

Pat

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Jun 7, 2004
1,250
Oday 272LE Ninnescah Yacht Club, Wichita, Ks.
Brilliant....that would work and solve the problem of the wife or friend becoming airborne.
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
Why not use a battery operated winch temporarily secured to the bow and an A-frame mounted at 90 degrees to the mast to slowly raise / lower the mast single handily?
There is a youtube video of exactly this method.

However, it works just as well by running the line from the a-frame back to a winch in the cockpit. I have done it. The a-frame works, but it provides little lateral support should the mast decide to slide to one side. I saw a kit to deal with this by tensioning the shrouds as the mast is lifted. You could also simply tie lines to the mast and run them through turning blocks abeam of the mast them back to jam cleats or clutches in the cockpit. You could mount those blocks on the stanchions(?). Using the a-frame scares the bejeebers out of my wife, so we normally have the yard hoist the mast. :) But admittedly, I had no lateral support for the mast.

Oh, and the mast step plate and the mast base plate on a 272 have a pin / slot configuration that will immediately break if the mast moves off center laterally. Total PITA.

Thanks,

Andrew