staying on water year round

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Jan 27, 2007
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Irwin 37' center cockpit cleveland ohio
I want to keep the boat in the water for the winter. Average ice depth 8". Maximum 14".
I do not have electricity - so no inside heater or bubbler.
Now, I heard a lot of "Don't do it...I heard..." When questioned, these same people admit they have never experienced it or actually looked at anything pertaining to keeping a boat in water year round in northern lattitudes.

So I called Harbor North and got ???? on the phone. He has kept his boat in the water year round for 14 years, without a bubbler. When he hauls out he said his boat is fine. No ice damage. He leaves his valves open except the motor intake. Winterizes the motor.
Said the solar heat on the boat always keeps a small area of water surrounding the hull so that when the wind blows on the mast, the boat moves in water. Also the boat is in a very sheltered area.
Last winter I drove up there to see for myself. There were 7 boats in the bay area, his included. 3 of them were 50' Bennetau's. READ THAT PART AGAIN. They were newer models and LAID OUT. In other words...booku bucks.
The basin had 3 aerators of some size, probably 3/4hp. Not one boat was totally free of being in ice and three of them were 100% in ice. They had no problems. And all had internal heaters.
In addition there are several boats or more staying on the Cuyahoga river year round. Most have have been there for years, most covered, and no electricity for heaters etc. Now this part of the river gets ice, but thin ice because the river is heated form the steel mill upriver. The mill just started back up. That is where I plan to leave my boat.
Now, what do I need to know? Do you have any experience or know factually people who have done it, etc.
For the first twenty who just HAVE to answer "You'll shoot your eye out", I get it.
 
Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
My first thought is that a rocking boat will grind any ice that has formed anywhere around the hull. One winter I left my B235 in the water, which froze. I had a sledge hammer head on a rope and walked around the boat and broke the ice as best i could. Obviously, if you're moored out and iced in, you can't get to the boat to do anything anyway.
 
Sep 29, 2008
1,937
Catalina 310 #185 Quantico
Iced should not be a problem

I have regularly left my boats in the water for years only hauling out when I needed to do work on them. Thankfully with Global Warming, it not only extends the boating season, but also helps me out by keeping the ice to a minimum. Here in Quantico it was not unusual to get 4-5 inches of ice in the marina a few years ago, and for a few years I was able to step out on the ice and do a little work around the boat. As we have floating docks, the boat gets nestled in a nice cradle of ice and floats up and down in the ice along with the dock.

Biggest thing, IMHO, is to make sure everything is winterized. I even open my sink thru hulls and pour the pink antifreeze down into them before before closing them off. Naturally, I use some cheap rum in my fresh water system as it tastes better than the pink stuff in the spring. :D

It all depends on where you are. I would not leave a boat on a mooring over the winter. We had one boat get dragged nearly a half mile by the ice and the owner was lucky to recover it.
 

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
Everything else aside, I would never consider buying a boat that had been left in 8-14" thick ice during the winter. You may not see damage but I would be very surprised if there was not any flexing of the hull. FRP is weakened by flexing. Again, you probably will see no evidence of this until it is too late.
 
Jun 8, 2004
853
Pearson 26W Marblehead
Leaving boat in all winter

You didnt tell us where u are. How far north is important. Lots of sailors leave there boat in the chesapeake all winter. not many do in Maine
 
Feb 12, 2007
259
Ericson 25 Oshkosh, WI
Re: Leaving boat in all winter

Its not worth the risk to keep your boat in the water in Hammond, Indiana, Ralphie. Just because others lick the steel pipe will you? Cant wait till Christmas day to see that movie again!
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,708
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
I was at the Peoria Heights Yacht Club back in the late 70's during a bitter cold stretch in December. While the main channel of the IL River was open, the ice near shore was thick enough to walk on. they sail on this part of the river and there were a number of sailboats frozen solid in their slips. The club said these guys always left their boats in all winter. I wouldn't do it, but i guess some do.
 
Dec 1, 1999
2,391
Hunter 28.5 Chesapeake Bay
This is an easy question: if you think the potential benefits outweigh the potential risks, by all means stay in the water over the winter. The few times I've done it, I've always regretted it. Never again, at least for me.
 
Jan 10, 2009
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PDQ 32 Deale, MD
I will say the only damage I have ever had was when I was out of the water.

This is an easy question: if you think the potential benefits outweigh the potential risks, by all means stay in the water over the winter. The few times I've done it, I've always regretted it. Never again, at least for me.
The blocking was wrong, we got a very heavy snow load, and the hull got a dent. At Herrington Harbor North.

It is also MUCH colder when a boat is out of the water. In the water, the cabin barely goes to freezing. Out of the water it goes to air temperature.

BUT you should be visiting the boat every few weeks. IF you can't sail in the winter, what is the point, really? There are risks. I sail all year, because we very seldom get ice.
 
Jan 27, 2007
383
Irwin 37' center cockpit cleveland ohio
thanks

There are a number of reasons. One is financial. I'm broke.
The next is the obnoxious people running the marina. The third is if I get a better boat and sail way up north along the coast etc, I want to have some assurances the ice won't kill the boat. And lastly if three Newer Bennetau 50's can do it, why not me?
It was 50 today in Cleveland. The boat inside was warm in spite of a cloudy, overcast day.
Besides, my buddy needs a place to get away from the old lady!!!!!!!!
 
Jul 20, 2005
2,422
Whitby 55 Kemah, Tx
I've heard of people in Canida not only leaving the boat in the water year round, but also living on it too....so how broke are you :) If you are serious about keeping it in the water, then it can be done. The only real question is, are you willing to go the extra mile to make sure the boat is safe.

I'd say sail the thing below I-10 and live-aboard down in the keys and the only worries about ice is, do you have enough to put in your rum and coke :)
 
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