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Steve

I have a 1980 37' hunter with a 3QM30. Once in a while when I hit the starter button, nothing happens. I hit it a couple more times and it will start with no problem. I have not read about any problems with the starter on the 3QM30. A back-up starter is $1300.00 which I do not want to pay for unless I'm sure I need to, and I cannot find any carbon brushes to carry for back up. Does anyone have any experience with this problem, and what was the resolution? Thanks, Steve Quinn
 
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TONY BARBIN

common start problem

AS I OPERATE AN AUTO-ELECTRIC SHOP AND HAVE SEEN THIS PROBLEM NUMEROUS TIMES I HAVE A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS. FIRST,TO DETERMINE IF YOU HAVE A STARTER PROBLEM OR A CIRCUITRY PROBLEM THERE IS A TEST YOU CAN EASILY PERFORM TO DIAGNOSE THIS SITUATION. LOOK AT THE CONNECTIONS AT THE SOLENOID(ON TOP OF THE STARTER) YOU WILL SEE THE BATTERY(POSITIVE)CABLE ATTACHES TO THE MAIN SOLENOID TERMINAL.THERE IS ALSO A SMALLER TERMINAL CALLED A "SWITCH TERMINAL(SOMETIMES A SMALL STUD,SOMETIMES A "PUSH-ON",OR "SPADE" TERMINAL.IF YOU USE A SHORT PIECE OF 10GA. WIRE TO"JUMP" OR CONNECT THE SWITCH TERMINAL TO THE BATTERY TERMINAL THE STARTER SHOULD OPERATE INSTANTLY.THIS SHOULD BE DONE ONLY MOMENTARILY AS A TEST AT THE TIME THAT YOUR ENGINE DOES NOT START FROM THE KEY SWITCH.IF IT CRANKS EVERY TIME BY "JUMPING" THE SOLENOID,THAT TELLS YOU THAT YOUR STARTER IS JUST FINE AND THAT THE PROBLEM IS A LOSS OF POWER IN THE "SWITCHING" CIRCUIT.IT MAY BE DUE TO A FAULTY KEY SWITCH(CORRODED CONTACTS)OR LESS THAN PERFECT CONNECTIONS ELSEWHERE IN THAT SAME CIRCUIT.A FIX I HAVE USED MANY TIMES IS TO WIRE IN A RELAY (OFTEN CALLED A "SLAVE" RELAY MOUNTED AT THE STARTER SOLENOID AND WIRED CONNECTED IN SUCH A WAY AS TO USE THE ORIGINAL "SWITCH LEAD TO ACTIVATE THE RELAY,THEN THE RELAY WILL ACTIVATE THE SOLENOID.YOU SEE,THE RELAY ONLY NEEDS THE KEY SWITCH TO PROVIDE 1 AMP OF CURRENT TO CLOSE IT,BUT THE ORIGINAL STARTER SOLENOID NEEDS APPROXIAMATELY 20-30 AMPS TO OPERATE IT. YOUR TOWN,I'M SUREHAS A LOCAL AUTO-ELECTRIC SHOP WHO CAN PROVIDE A RELAYAND A DIAGRAM FOR YOU,IF NOT PLEASE CONTACT ME AT 203-878-4629 DURING WORKING HOURS,I'LL BE GLAD TO HELP. BY THE WAY,WHEN YOU "JUMP"THE SOLENOID BE BE SURE YOU ARE IN NUETRAL AND YOU ARE CLEAR OF MOVING ENGINE PARTS. GOOD LUCK! TONY BARBIN S/V SUMMER WINDS MILFORD,CONN.
 
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Ed Schenck

Same boat, same problem.

And you will find much written in the archives about this. Tony's test is exactly right. You will likely start first time, every time when you jump it this way. Some months ago I posted the H37C Yanmar wiring diagram on "Photo Forum". You can find it by using "early wiring" as a search argument. From this diagram you can see that there are at least six connection points where some kind of resistance could exist(fuse, key switch, push-button). I have not attempted a fix yet because I know I can always "jump" it. But if I am patient(and not in trouble on a lee shore) it will eventually start from the panel.
 
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