starter wiring

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Jun 29, 2004
42
-Hunter 320 Grapevine Lake
I recollect reading about this problem here but haven't been able to find it again. On my '01 320 I have starting problems that I believe is related to the size of the wiring from what I've read here. I've traced all the starting related conections and they all seem good. There's been quite a bit of discussion on this so please help me find it again.

thanks for the help

Steve
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Steve:

Have you actually removed all of the connections and cleaned them. Sometime they look good until you take them apart.
 
Jun 29, 2004
42
-Hunter 320 Grapevine Lake
not all of them-but if I don't get any other tips I guess I will do that this weekend

thanks
 

Johnb

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Jan 22, 2008
1,462
Hunter 37-cutter Richmond CA
One issue that has been talked about a lot is the size of the wire that feeds out to the starter switch/button and then back to the starter solenoid. The solenoid draws a hefty amount of current (20+ amps on my 3QM30) and any weakness in the connections will cause enough voltage drop that the solenoid won't pull in. The result is the engine does not crank.
 
May 28, 2009
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Hunter 376 Pensacola, FL
Installing a relay treats the symptom, not the problem. Run a new continous #10 wire from your starter button to your solenoid. Problem fixed.
 
Jun 3, 2004
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Island Packet Island Packet 29 West River, MD
Ditto Robertsapp

I think I may have had the same problem. Two seasons ago my 1983 Yanmar 3GMF would "usually" start but occassionally I'd push the starter button and nothing would happen. I'd wait a few seconds, try again, and by the second or third time she would fire up. This wasn't good, unnerving to say the least. I considered the relay solution but instead decided to just replace the wire with the proper guage (can't remember size but think it was #8). I ran it from the starter button to the solenoid and it has never happened again. Maybe cost me $8 and took ten minutes.

Good luck with you decision.
 

dworob

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May 1, 2011
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Beneteau 373 Georgian Bay
I think I may have had the same problem. Two seasons ago my 1983 Yanmar 3GMF would "usually" start but occassionally I'd push the starter button and nothing would happen. I'd wait a few seconds, try again, and by the second or third time she would fire up.
Same experience here. Glad to know it wasn't unique and that it's a straight-forward fix.
 
Jun 10, 2004
135
Hunter 30_74-83 Shelburne
I have fought this many, many times and the fixes haven't always been as straightforward as the bigger conductor to the key switch - did that early on. Once I reluctantly went with the relay- only thing I could get to work. Worked but then in a few years I started having the issue even with the high current bulkhead starter solenoid relay, big key switch conductor and all hot terminals shined to bare metal.

Starter tested fine at the starter / alt. shop. Finally thought to upsize my negative wire to the block and get those connections clean, that did it. Eventually that starter too gave up the ghost and wouldn't consistently pull in and spin. My latest one is fine with no relay for two years. I doubt this issue will ever be fully put to rest, and my belief is the starters Yanmar has built simply aren't very rugged, well designed or both. This happens much less frequently on the millions and millions of automobiles that use onboard solenoid starters and they last many many more starts, most going from new and perfect to dead or retired over the course of a decade or more with absolutely no attention paid or problems resulting from bad connections or undersized wire. Bring on the comments that say it's all the wire sizing and connection cleanliness, to each his own. These are some finicky ass starters.
 

Rich M

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Nov 5, 2007
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Hunter 28.5 Annapolis, MD
Can someone provide either a picture or drawing of exactly where on the switch & solenoid this continuous wire should go? I have looked these parts over several times and remain uncertain of what to do.

Thanks
 

Rich M

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Nov 5, 2007
74
Hunter 28.5 Annapolis, MD
Thanks Dan, this clears up most of my confusion & I think I can follow the provided diagram and photo.
 
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