Starboard Bunk- Backrest O'day 26

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Dec 11, 2009
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Oday 26 Central FL
I was unhappy with the comfort of the backrest on the starboard side settee. With the stove sticking out so far, the backrest going forward was uncomfortable to lean back on so I removed the shelf behind it and replace the backrest directly to the cabin side.

I cut a 1 x 1 piece of teak into an "L" shape on the table saw. Screwed the teak to the cabinside and traced where the backrest would go on the back of the backrest. I removed the teak and fixed it to the back of the backrest, then screwed it back to the cabinside.

If anyone is interested in the modification I've posted some pics, it's very comfortable to lean back now.

John
 

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Oct 2, 2008
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Island Packet 31 Brunswick, Ga
great idea, i have thought of doing something like that but i would miss the shelves that the original backrest have behind them. still, a great idea
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
I was unhappy with the comfort of the backrest on the starboard side settee. With the stove sticking out so far, the backrest going forward was uncomfortable to lean back on so I removed the shelf behind it and replace the backrest directly to the cabin side.

I cut a 1 x 1 piece of teak into an "L" shape on the table saw. Screwed the teak to the cabinside and traced where the backrest would go on the back of the backrest. I removed the teak and fixed it to the back of the backrest, then screwed it back to the cabinside.

If anyone is interested in the modification I've posted some pics, it's very comfortable to lean back now.

John
Great idea John. I'm thinking of changing my galley over again and mounting it on the Port side which would involve removing most of that backrest or possibly the whole thing. I really don't need that quarter birth but I'm in the thinking stages of this project right now. What I really need is less bunks and more stowage space. Rearranging the galley would allow me to stand up with my head out of the companionway sliding hatch while tending to galley chores, which could be a more welcome change.
My boat is sitting on the trailer next to the house and I'm in the process of emptying the cabin out. The furler and outboard are already stored down my cellar and the mast is stripped bare of rigging which I do every year before covering my boat. I pulled my boat out the week before the hurricane and brought it home. After some careful thinking, I decided to wrap it up for the season and get a head start on next season.
I enjoy messing with boats almost as much as sailing them.
Joe
 
Dec 11, 2009
165
Oday 26 Central FL
Thanks...

There is so much room in this boat that I don't feel like I'm going to miss the small amount behind the backrest.

Joe-Be interested to see your mock up of the project.

John
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Thanks...

There is so much room in this boat that I don't feel like I'm going to miss the small amount behind the backrest.

Joe-Be interested to see your mock up of the project.

John
I would too John. I just haven't figured out what I want to do and how to go about it. I plan to remove the galley cabinet with the stove and sink enclosure and set it on the Port quarter birth area and see what I can come up with. If I don't like it, I'll abandon the idea.
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Thanks...

There is so much room in this boat that I don't feel like I'm going to miss the small amount behind the backrest.

Joe-Be interested to see your mock up of the project.

John
John,
I just decided today that I'm going to abandon the idea of moving my galley. I need the extra space to store my gear out of sight and still have plenty of seating space in my cabin. As it is now, my cabin always looks cluttered when I pack my gear in it.
What I'm planning to do next year is eliminate the two quarter birth mattress under the cockpit and install a sliding curtain at the bottom of my companionway bulkhead on each side. I'll gain 4" of depth without the mattresses and my gear will be easier to get at and slide out. Plus my cabin will look less cluttered with my gear stowed in those spaces behind the two curtains. There will still be plenty of room to either sit down or stretch out and sleep in the quarter births.
I've also decided to use my single burner Origo stove instead of my double burner Origo. After I modified my galley a few years ago, I could never get my table to swing over the sink and out of the way because the stove is set higher and interfered with the table. Now I can slide the single burner over and to one side and get my table to swing over the sink and out of the way when it's not in use.
I wish that I could get my extra 28 quart cooler to fit in one of those cubby holes but I don't think that there's enough height in there for it. I take this extra cooler with me on overnighters for the extra ice that it holds and also for a place to store the fish I catch. I've been storing it in a space in front of the head. When I need to use the head, I have to move it into the main cabin out of the way. Maybe I'll give up fishing-----Not!:D
Anyway, I've been a busy boy lately. I mounted an outboard bracket that a friend gave me, I unloaded the stuff from my boat and stowed it in the house, and I just took the boat off the trailer yesterday and put it on stands. I know. It's too early to pack it in but I want to get a head start on next year's work and besides, I still have the kayak to use and get out on the water.
Joe
 

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billh

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Jun 9, 2009
59
Hunter 28.5 Inland NY
Off Trailer

Hi Joe,

I am wondering how you get your boat off the trailer and on blocks? And why?

I ask in that I am planning to refit my trailer now, I have jack stands and so forth, remove the wooden cradle and use a platform for the keel and jack stands for the sides and or bunks or rollers. I have 96 rollers from the trailer!

However, I am trying to work out the details of exactly how to move the boat off the trailer without a lift of some sort?

Thanks



John,
I just decided today that I'm going to abandon the idea of moving my galley. I need the extra space to store my gear out of sight and still have plenty of seating space in my cabin. As it is now, my cabin always looks cluttered when I pack my gear in it.
What I'm planning to do next year is eliminate the two quarter birth mattress under the cockpit and install a sliding curtain at the bottom of my companionway bulkhead on each side. I'll gain 4" of depth without the mattresses and my gear will be easier to get at and slide out. Plus my cabin will look less cluttered with my gear stowed in those spaces behind the two curtains. There will still be plenty of room to either sit down or stretch out and sleep in the quarter births.
I've also decided to use my single burner Origo stove instead of my double burner Origo. After I modified my galley a few years ago, I could never get my table to swing over the sink and out of the way because the stove is set higher and interfered with the table. Now I can slide the single burner over and to one side and get my table to swing over the sink and out of the way when it's not in use.
I wish that I could get my extra 28 quart cooler to fit in one of those cubby holes but I don't think that there's enough height in there for it. I take this extra cooler with me on overnighters for the extra ice that it holds and also for a place to store the fish I catch. I've been storing it in a space in front of the head. When I need to use the head, I have to move it into the main cabin out of the way. Maybe I'll give up fishing-----Not!:D
Anyway, I've been a busy boy lately. I mounted an outboard bracket that a friend gave me, I unloaded the stuff from my boat and stowed it in the house, and I just took the boat off the trailer yesterday and put it on stands. I know. It's too early to pack it in but I want to get a head start on next year's work and besides, I still have the kayak to use and get out on the water.
Joe
 

billh

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Jun 9, 2009
59
Hunter 28.5 Inland NY
Nice Bunk move

John, that is a nice solution. I feel the same that the starboard back rest feels awkward! Now, If I can remove the cooler area, make that bench longer, both the Commodore and myself could comfortably spend the weekend :)

Bill H.

I was unhappy with the comfort of the backrest on the starboard side settee. With the stove sticking out so far, the backrest going forward was uncomfortable to lean back on so I removed the shelf behind it and replace the backrest directly to the cabin side.

I cut a 1 x 1 piece of teak into an "L" shape on the table saw. Screwed the teak to the cabinside and traced where the backrest would go on the back of the backrest. I removed the teak and fixed it to the back of the backrest, then screwed it back to the cabinside.

If anyone is interested in the modification I've posted some pics, it's very comfortable to lean back now.

John
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Hi Joe,

I am wondering how you get your boat off the trailer and on blocks? And why?

I ask in that I am planning to refit my trailer now, I have jack stands and so forth, remove the wooden cradle and use a platform for the keel and jack stands for the sides and or bunks or rollers. I have 96 rollers from the trailer!

However, I am trying to work out the details of exactly how to move the boat off the trailer without a lift of some sort?

Thanks
Well,--let me answer your question by telling you why I take my boat off my trailer. It's easier to sand and clean the bottom, get at the centerboard to check the shackle and pin, and also to bottom paint the whole hull. In short, it's just easier to work on the hull without having to climb around and over the trailer.
How do I get the boat off the trailer? I lighten the boat up by taking everything out of the cabin as well as removing everything else like the outboard, rudder, mast and Etc. Then I use four of my Brownell SB-3 sailboat stands on the stern to lift it, plus a hydraulic jack and a straight powerboat stand under the bow close to the keel. I keep the boat level as I raise it up off the trailer and I shore up under the stern with 6"x6" wood blocks. It's just a matter of jacking the bow up and moving the trailer ahead with the straight stand attaining the height. I may move the trailer about 15" or 20" ahead and have to jack up the bow and move the straight stand ahead or on the other side of the trailer's cross member.
Once the keel is clear of the last cross member, I raise the bow up a little and shore up under the keel with blocks and take the trailer out the rest of the way. One sailboat stand from each side is then moved forward to the appropriate area of the hull and she's good to go.
I don't advocate that everyone try this because it is dangerous.
Also, boat stands aren't made to lift boats as you well know.
With that said though; my sailboat stands can lift my O'Day 222. I also used my boat stands one day to lift my friend Ray's 86 O'Day 26 off his trailer and it was fully loaded.
He pulled it out of the water that night and the boat was sitting crooked on his trailer with the keel off the keel board a couple of inches. The tide went down and it was too late to back down again and straighten out the boat. To tell you the truth, I had more of a problem trying to slide his tandem trailer sideways than I did to lift his boat. I didn't think of it at the time, but I could have jacked up his trailer with my Speedy Lift hydraulic jack and let the wheels of the jack roll the trailer sideways. I just discovered this trick about two years ago and it works. All you need to do is pull it over with a block and tackle from a tree or something that won't move. If you had to do this on the ground, a short plank under the jack will work for the wheels to roll on.
So that's why and how I do it. I know that Ray learned quite a bit about lifting his boat that day because he needed to remove his centerboard and was able to do it himself at his house. Although, he told me that he didn't take his 26 completely off his trailer, but he got it off far enough so that he could remove the centerboard.
My other friend Jeff used a backhoe from the farm where he worked at, to hold the bow of his O'Day 25, in order to get it off the trailer. He had a pit dug under the keel so that he could drop the centerboard down to get at it.
I talked to a guy who used a long metal eye beam to hold the bow of his O'Day 25 in order to set up his tandem trailer.
This whole operation is even easier with a roller trailer. You just rope off the stern to something solid and pull the trailer out from under the boat, shoring up as your go along. Like I said though, --it's dangerous. You really need to think it out and take your time. Take every precaution to make sure that you shore up under the hull just in case something goes wrong, the boat won't fall far, tip sideways, or pitch-pole forward or backward. Email me and I'll send you some pics. sailtrinkka1986@verizon.net
Joe
 
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billh

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Jun 9, 2009
59
Hunter 28.5 Inland NY
Remove boat from trailer

Thank you Joe for the response.

Quite the feat I think, but I am up for it, and I have to for two reasons this year. One the refit as I mentioned. And two, to free my center board.

This year I was caught in a bad storm with my ten year old son, we made a run to hide behind an island and doing so the wind and wave pushed us up on a beach. We were stuck in some clay like mud. Was able to get her off the beach with assistance from some motor boaters hiding behind the island like we were.

However now my center board is jammed up. So I need to get clearance to see what ails it. I am pretty surew is is mud jammed up in there or simply the board is jammed from having been beached.

Chances are I will email shortly, I can see how you are able to work the trailer out form under the boat, and see how it does make it easier to get at. This year I would like to refresh the bottom coat as well so that will be easier.

I have purchases four jack stands and four 8 ton bottle jacks, Tractor Supply had a great sale :) Just trying to work out the details of refitting the trailer, get the big wooden cradle off and rebuild with rollers I have, and so forth.

Thank you again Joe.

Bill H.



Well,--let me answer your question by telling you why I take my boat off my trailer. It's easier to sand and clean the bottom, get at the centerboard to check the shackle and pin, and also to bottom paint the whole hull. In short, it's just easier to work on the hull without having to climb around and over the trailer.
How do I get the boat off the trailer? I lighten the boat up by taking everything out of the cabin as well as removing everything else like the outboard, rudder, mast and Etc. Then I use four of my Brownell SB-3 sailboat stands on the stern to lift it, plus a hydraulic jack and a straight powerboat stand under the bow close to the keel. I keep the boat level as I raise it up off the trailer and I shore up under the stern with 6"x6" wood blocks. It's just a matter of jacking the bow up and moving the trailer ahead with the straight stand attaining the height. I may move the trailer about 15" or 20" ahead and have to jack up the bow and move the straight stand ahead or on the other side of the trailer's cross member.
Once the keel is clear of the last cross member, I raise the bow up a little and shore up under the keel with blocks and take the trailer out the rest of the way. One sailboat stand from each side is then moved forward to the appropriate area of the hull and she's good to go.
I don't advocate that everyone try this because it is dangerous.
Also, boat stands aren't made to lift boats as you well know.
With that said though; my sailboat stands can lift my O'Day 222. I also used my boat stands one day to lift my friend Ray's 86 O'Day 26 off his trailer and it was fully loaded.
He pulled it out of the water that night and the boat was sitting crooked on his trailer with the keel off the keel board a couple of inches. The tide went down and it was too late to back down again and straighten out the boat. To tell you the truth, I had more of a problem trying to slide his tandem trailer sideways than I did to lift his boat. I didn't think of it at the time, but I could have jacked up his trailer with my Speedy Lift hydraulic jack and let the wheels of the jack roll the trailer sideways. I just discovered this trick about two years ago and it works. All you need to do is pull it over with a block and tackle from a tree or something that won't move. If you had to do this on the ground, a short plank under the jack will work for the wheels to roll on.
So that's why and how I do it. I know that Ray learned quite a bit about lifting his boat that day because he needed to remove his centerboard and was able to do it himself at his house. Although, he told me that he didn't take his 26 completely off his trailer, but he got it off far enough so that he could remove the centerboard.
My other friend Jeff used a backhoe from the farm where he worked at, to hold the bow of his O'Day 25, in order to get it off the trailer. He had a pit dug under the keel so that he could drop the centerboard down to get at it.
I talked to a guy who used a long metal eye beam to hold the bow of his O'Day 25 in order to set up his tandem trailer.
This whole operation is even easier with a roller trailer. You just rope off the stern to something solid and pull the trailer out from under the boat, shoring up as your go along. Like I said though, --it's dangerous. You really need to think it out and take your time. Take every precaution to make sure that you shore up under the hull just in case something goes wrong, the boat won't fall far, tip sideways, or pitch-pole forward or backward. Email me and I'll send you some pics. sailtrinkka1986@verizon.net
Joe
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Hi Bill,
There is no doubt that there is mud or some kind of soil in the centerboard slot on your boat. The same thing happened to my friend Wayne's Seaward 22 just recently. I swam under his keel and tried to free it but I could not get hold of it with my channel locks. He left about 8" of slack in his centerboard pendant line and after a while his board freed itself. He found that out on the day that he pulled it out of the water for the season.
I just sent you out the pics. I had sent these same pics to a guy named Matt, so what I did was take the same emails out of the "sent file" rather than do them over from my flash drive. I hope you get them OK.
Probably the hardest task is holding the bow up. I know a guy who used a long metal eye beam supported by stands or blocks of some kind to support his OD 25. I also know of a guy who built a wood beam to hold up the bow of his OD 23. He built the beam using 2x6''s, lags, and Gorilla Glue. It worked believe it or not. He posted pics of it on one of these O'Day forums several years ago. Some guys use a gantry to hold the bow up. Which ever way that you choose to do it Bill, just be careful, take your time, and take every precaution because it is very dangerous.
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
John,
I'm sorry that we hijacked your thread. Any mods to your boat that you can write about will be greatly appreciated.
Joe
 
Dec 11, 2009
165
Oday 26 Central FL
Joe,

I did the same thing on my 18. I bought some of those plastic bins from Walmart, put close, dishes and supplies in different bins. When I got to the anchorage I pulled out the appropriate bin. It was easy and much neater than having things all over the boat.

John

Bill- I really like this boat, lots of storage but difficult to access. There is a ton of room under the cockpit but not easy to crawl into. The V berth has a lot of storage too but you have to take the cushions off to get down in there.

I think the V berth and the slide out bunk are fine for two but yes I agree the starboard bunk is a bit short.

John
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
John,
What I plan to do next year is remove the quarter bunk mattresses that go under the cockpit and use that area for storage. The remaining quarter bunk mattresses are still long enough to seat some people and sprawl out on if I want to. Removing those mattresses would give me room to store my gear plus my extra 28 quart cooler. My cabin will look less cluttered next year. There are two compartments under there that I never used and this will give me the opportunity to start storing stuff under the bunks. Sometimes the solutions to problems are right under our nose and all we need to do is think outside of the box to come up with them.
Joe
 
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