Standing and running rigging?

[mcginn m22]

Hey all, new owner of a v222
Ive fixed the retractable keel / cable and have just been motoring around. I have yet to erect the mast. I've been looking for info on the rigging / halyards. I think everything is there, but one of the main questions I have is where do I run the mainsail halyard through at the mast head? I only see one block on it.

Also, if anyone is in Socal, I would love if someone could show me the ropes. I'll tow it to your place, or meet at ventura harbor, or marina del rey, or even a parking lot somewhere? shoot me an email : ericmcginn@gmail.com
I'm in Van Nuys but go to the harbor to motor around. I don't have a ton of cash but at the very least would get you a case of beer or wine or similar!

 

[BudGates]

Welcome mcginn m22. The main halyard doesn't go through the mast on a V222. It simply runs through a block and down the outside of the mast. Similarly the jib halyard runs down the outside of the mast. As I recall the block on mine was mounted next to the forestay.

It would probably be too far for you to tow your boat here to Ridgecrest CA, but Channel Islands Harbor (less than 10 miles South of Ventura harbor) is our usual launching area. I'd love to meet with you but won't likely be there again till March. Contact me if you're still looking for someone to show you the ropes in March or April.

 

[mcginn m22]

BudGates thanks for the offer, I'd love to meet up with you regardless of whether I've got it figured out by then or not! Do you go out to the Channel Islands?

So I only have one little block at the mast head. Should there be two?

 

[Freedom77]

HI McGinn: Check my response to you post on McGregor Sailors.com. Let me know if you are able to pull up info I referred.

 

[BudGates]

The original V-222 only has one block mounted directly to the mast. The second block should be locate at or near the same place as the front stay attaches.

I'll let you know the next time we plan to head that way. We've been out to see the arch on Anacapa but that's all we've seen of the Channel Islands, other than Catalina Island.

 

[mcginn m22]

Cool thanks, I ended up buying a block with a swivel and attaching it to a Carabener that was already attached to the rear stay mast head bracket.

 

[mcginn m22]

Here are some pics of what I've got going on.

 

[mcginn m22]

So I don't have a thumb screw for the boom goose neck, I just lashed it to the mast. I guess I see if blue water yachts has it.

But there is a bolt and wing nuts that appears to hole the clips / bullets / slugs in place which I didn't use anyways. This bolt doesn't fit into the boom gooseneck so it's not for that. Also, on the back of the mast there are two screws that are unused? Also there is the big shiny hoop bolted towards the bottom of the mast, what's this for? And the little bolt going through the aft part of the mast at the very bottom, what's this for?

A lot to figure out still, but I'm glad I got the mast and sails up!

 

[BudGates]

Yes, That's the correct location for the jib halyard block.

You can probably get a stainless steel thumb screw from a local hardware store to use for your goose neck. I use a quick-release pin to make set-up a little quicker.

If you ever need to lower the sail and leave it in place, such as docking for lunch or something you'll want the bolt to hold the sail-slugs in place.

Here is my best interpretation of what I see in your pictures:

I believe those two screws on the back of the mast are for a halyard cleat. If you tie your halyards off at the mast you'll need two cleats, one for each sail. Extra cleats often come in handy.

That big loop near the bottom of the mast, called a boom bail, is most likely added by a previous owner to attach the boom-vang, intended for easier set-up. It could also be used to attach a cunningham. The bolt at the bottom of the mast is the original attachment for the boom-vang.

 

[mcginn m22]

Ok good good

So for the thumb screw it's like a threaded bolt? It doesn't come to a point at the end right? A quick release pin sounds good, how did you set that up?

I think your right about the hoop, there is a block on the boom were a boom vang would go, I just thought out boats didn't have one, someone must have added it?

 

[BudGates]

The V-222 did come with a boom-vang. Mine had one and I remember reading about it in the owners manual. Unfortunately I sold the V-222 a couple of years ago and gave the manual away with the boat.

The gooseneck on my V-222 was the same as my 26d which consists of a U shaped bracket mounted to the mast and a shaft at the end of the boom. A bolt slid through the top of the bracket, through the shaft, then through the bottom of the bracket. I simply replaced the bolt with a pin. I called it a quick-release pin but it was pin that has a spring loop attached to the head that you stretch over the end to hold it in place.

 

[mcginn m22]

Ok I'm catching on, so I also put a pin through this bracket, because the original bolt was missing. The part I need now is the bolt / screw that prevents the goose neck / boom from spinning.

 

[BudGates]

That screw is only needed for roller reefing which, in my opinion, is a real pain in the neck and doesn't work all that well. A previous owner had installed jiffy reefing in the sail which works a whole lot better. I never used that screw and never had any issue with the boom spinning even when the sail was reefed.

 

[mcginn m22]

Ok I see, i was just afraid that it was needed for strength but it sounds like it's just fine with the the u bracket connection only. Thank you,
So excited to take it out this weekend, hoping the wind will be good.

 

[BudGates]

I'm excited for you. Let us know how it goes.

 

[mcginn m22]

Took her out today with the gf. Absolutely beautiful day.

Moving on to some new questions,
How do you have the mast while trailering? I've been lashing it to the side of the pulpit and then tied down to the cleats in the cockpit, I put it to the side so I can still slide the top hatch open. But it would be ideal if I could open the pop top too. I've seen people use the mast crutch but I'm concerned about putting that much weight there bouncing down the road, should I just reinforce the crutch and do it that way?

How do you secure your boat to your trailer? Straps? Rope?

I think these two tasks are two of the most time consuming and trickiest ones. It took a bit over an hour to set up and an hour to take down, trying to streamline the whole thing.

Also, my boat came with a huge solid wood rudder. It weighs a ton and I have to take it on and off every time cuz it doesn't fold. Anyone ever make their own folding rudder? Could I use aluminum plate?

 

[BudGates]

Glad you and your lady had a nice day for your maiden voyage.

There should be a thin slot at the base of the mast inside the boltrope slot. This slot slips over the blade where you attach the forestay. Once it's in place you can put a pin through the blade to hold everything together.

The top of the mast does ride in the mast crutch. It should be strong enough to hold but if you're concerned it doesn't hurt to reinforce it a bit. Once the mast is in place I tie it down to the cleats on both sides of the cockpit to keep it stable. Then one more short rope from the mast tabernacle to keep the center from bouncing.

With the bow attached loosely to the winch (some slack is needed to allow flexing) one or two ratchet straps secure the boat to the trailer nicely. With practice you'll be able to set her up a lot quicker.

My V-222 came with a solid wood rudder as well. I cut it in half and sandwiched it between two 1/16" stainless steel sheets. The issue that I ran into was that the wood would swell when it was wet making it difficult to pivot. Spacers below one of the sheets helped to remedy the problem.

 

[mcginn m22]

BudGates you are a life saver.
I was looking into buying HDPE plastic and making a whole new kick up rudder from scratch, your idea will be much better!

So the little bolt at the bottom of the mast is to attach to the forestay anchor, that makes sense, I was wondering what that little bugger was. My steel mast crutch is questionable where it attaches to the rudder bolt holes, it has slightly bent on the bottom one. I will weld on some extra supports to them and start keeping the mast on the crutch.

with the mast in this configuration, is it possible to put the pop top up?

But wait a sec.... if I keep the mast there, that means I can't keep the rudder attached while trailering, which gives me less of a reason to make it a kick up rudder?

now the ratchet straps, do you attach them to either side of the trailer and bring them up and over the boat? or are you attaching to a cleat or something?

THANKS FOR THE WISDOM!!

 

[BudGates]

Glad I can help macgrinn.
My V-222 mast had a slot at the base to slide over the forstay anchor. But that may have been an upgrade between the '74 and my '76. Unfortunately the pop-top doesn't have enough room to open when the mast is stored like this.

You will still probably want an kick-up rudder since the stock rudder will drag on the ground when the boat is sitting on the trailer. If you forget to remove the rudder before pulling the boat from the water (I've done that more than once.) something can get damaged.