Splicing sta set 8mm

[NYSail]

So have new control lines and figured I would learn and splice my own eyes. Saw a video and appears very straight forward. However one of the end steps brings the core back through the cover and into the complete line. Video shows the guys fid going through with no problem for a full length (he was demonstrating with 5/8). However with the 8mm or 3/8 line the fid would not make but an inch or two and the tape would peal right off the fid once it got to the complete line (core and cover). There was no room. Any tips?

thanks
Greg

 

[jssailem]

You identify the most difficult of the tasks when doing a splice with stay-set. This is compounded when the line is older and the outer sheath has been drawn tight.
You use the word tape… It makes me think you are using fids like these made by Samson

I found they required tape not he outer surface to keep the core in the fid. That negated the ability for the fid to slide smoothly in the splice.

I replaced them with Selma fids.

I wrap the end of the core tightly with a little tape. (1.5 no more than 2 wraps). I then push the core completely into the fid. There is nothing on the outside of the fid to catch on the inside of the splice. It slips more easily through the core due to the polished surface. The longer core in the fid and the slight friction of the tape buried in the fid has made the task a little easier.

 

[NYSail]

Brand new lines…… and yes Sampson fids. Beginners lack of knowledge when purchasing. Your fids look like a much better design.
Thanks!

 

[jssailem]

It was a bit of knowledge learned through failure.

I tried. I failed. I discovered a better mouse trap. Now the cat is happy.

 

[NYSail]

And I probably picked the hardest line size to work with to be the first…….

 

[jssailem]

It happens…

 

[JBP-PA]

You can also use a "D-splicer" which you can easily make with some fine wire. You double over the wire, wedge the core in the bend, maybe add some tape. Then put the wire through and pull the core through. You can also buy a D-splicer.

 

[Joe]

With smaller diameter line it is easier to push the fid through a small section at a time. The best analogy I can think of is it would be like "stitching" the fid through the tunneling portion, this keeps the friction on the taped part of the fid to a minimum. Push the fid in a few inches then poke it out of the cover, pull up the core, then reinsert the fid back through the exit gap. You may have to repeat the maneuver a few times, but you'll find this much easier than struggling to push the whole package through in one go. I use masking tape, spirally attached and extending well down the line. creating maximum containment.