Splicing line

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May 24, 2004
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CC 30 South Florida
Ross we may have what may seem as an unlimited memory capacity but must definitely have a limited time to load it up so we must prioritize. Can't spend 100 hours in learning how to splice and 1/2 hour in planning a trip to the Bahamas. I just look for a better return in time spent learning a new skill than splicing can provide me. I also do not make my own pasta.
 
Jun 8, 2004
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Pearson 26W Marblehead
Splicing

I learned to splice 3 strand a long time ago when thats all there was. I gave instruction in marline spike seamanship, but I never learned to splice braided. I tie bowlines for my braided jib sheets and halyards. Im not concerned about how they look
 

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Benny, How many hours does a trip to the islands take and what do you do with those hours? If you watch TV you have time to learn splicing during the commercials.
 
Jun 28, 2005
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Hunter H33 2004 Mumford Cove,CT & Block Island
Over the years, I've gotten a lot of pleasure out of splicing lines for use on my boat for everything from halyards to knife lanyards. In the interests of full disclosure, I would admit that I'm good at splicing 3-strand, mediocre at splicing double braid, and I've never tried to splice some of the high tech, high modulus fibers. Yet I've been surprised at how many of my sailing friends have never learned to splice. Do you splice your own lines?
I picked up 150ft of 8-Plait 1/2" nylon line at Defender for $55 (closeout) and am currently making up a set of custom dock lines for our boat, the Samson site has an excellant video and pdf for 8 strand line, enclosed is photo of my first splice. I am thinking of using 8-plait for my anchor line also, as it is so limp and compliant it is easy to store in locker without tangles and twists.
 

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Looks great. Roll it under your foot a little to smooth it out and replace the colored tapes with sewn whippings and it will be perfect.
 

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Jun 1, 2004
8,163
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
Ross we may have what may seem as an unlimited memory capacity but must definitely have a limited time to load it up so we must prioritize. Can't spend 100 hours in learning how to splice and 1/2 hour in planning a trip to the Bahamas. I just look for a better return in time spent learning a new skill than splicing can provide me. I also do not make my own pasta.

Well, Benny, we agree here..... if it takes anyone a hundred hours to learn to make an eye splice he would be well served to hire that job out.

BTW, to some of the others... an eye splice is by no means "fancy" rope work. It is very basic to sailing function. It is also a much stronger connection than a knot.... why do you think it is so commonly use for halyard shackles, or ground tackle and dock lines?
 
Oct 24, 2011
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Lancer 28 Grand Lake
I picked up 150ft of 8-Plait 1/2" nylon line at Defender for $55 (closeout) and am currently making up a set of custom dock lines for our boat, the Samson site has an excellant video and pdf for 8 strand line, enclosed is photo of my first splice. I am thinking of using 8-plait for my anchor line also, as it is so limp and compliant it is easy to store in locker without tangles and twists.
That splice is not done correctly. I learned 8 plat in the merchant marine years ago, and often, i would be the only man on the ship who could do it, their are two ways, the wrong way, puting two strands under two strands, what you can find with these splices, is they get shorter, untill their is nothing left of them, but, in a sailboat, you wont put enough weight on them to do that. The right way to do it, is split up the eight strands into their pairs, then you take one pair, and instead of puting the two under, like you have done, you put one strand under one, and over the next, then the other strand over that one, and under the next, you work those two strands the full lenghth of the splice, then you start at the next two strands, when you get to the last two strands, it will be so tight, you will have to use a mallot, and a sweedish (hollow spike to get the rope open. You finish the ends, by either by taking the two strands, and whipping them together, or taping them, then you melt the very end with a soldering iron, or heat up an old knife and do it, or if you are really posh, use an electric rope cuter, wich will cut and bond them.
 
Oct 24, 2011
258
Lancer 28 Grand Lake
Looks great. Roll it under your foot a little to smooth it out and replace the colored tapes with sewn whippings and it will be perfect.
Master at 2 and twenty married at 23, ten thousnand me on the pay roll, forty freighters at sea, fifty years between them, and every year a fight and now i am sir anthony glouster, dying a baronite, but i didnt begin with asking, i took my job and i stuck, the others they didnt do it, now they are callling it luck, lord what boats i handled rotten and leacky and old, ran them or opned the bilge cock precisely as was told. grub that would bind you crazy, crews that would turn you grey and a big fat lum of insurance to cover the risk on its way.

I like that peom, but i like mcandrews hym to, though my favourite, is not by kipping, its called "cargoes" by john masefield
 
Jun 28, 2005
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Hunter H33 2004 Mumford Cove,CT & Block Island
I'll give your way a try

That splice is not done correctly. I learned 8 plat in the merchant marine years ago, and often, i would be the only man on the ship who could do it, their are two ways, the wrong way, puting two strands under two strands, what you can find with these splices, is they get shorter, untill their is nothing left of them, but, in a sailboat, you wont put enough weight on them to do that. The right way to do it, is split up the eight strands into their pairs, then you take one pair, and instead of puting the two under, like you have done, you put one strand under one, and over the next, then the other strand over that one, and under the next, you work those two strands the full lenghth of the splice, then you start at the next two strands, when you get to the last two strands, it will be so tight, you will have to use a mallot, and a sweedish (hollow spike to get the rope open. You finish the ends, by either by taking the two strands, and whipping them together, or taping them, then you melt the very end with a soldering iron, or heat up an old knife and do it, or if you are really posh, use an electric rope cuter, wich will cut and bond them.
I followed the Samson instructions, your variation seems to make more sense. To finish mine I intend to remove the tape fold the ends back and use whipping around the whole splice in the two spots where the strands exit, I do not believe the splices will get shorter under even the worst storm conditions.
 
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