Spinnaker

Kermit · Dec 6, 2014

I have an asymmetrical spinnaker that I had made for my H23. Haven't sailed with it on my H260 but I plan to do so as soon as I can. I flew it briefly on the hard and it seemed small. But I'm gonna do it anyway. My experience with it on the H23 is that it gave it a swift kick in the behind and gave us more speed. I don't race so I had it made for two reasons: the challenge of learning how to use it and I think it looks cool.

cephius (Dave) · Dec 6, 2014

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I purchased my asymmetrical cruising spinnaker from this Hunter Owner's site in 2004. I've been very happy with it. Check out my boat modification page for details on how I rigged it.

http://hunter.sailboatowners.com/in...id=267&cat_id=20&aid=8057&page=article&mn=260

Jackdaw · Dec 7, 2014

Asym. A great sail for reaching on boats like yours that cannot fly genoas. The boat in your picture must be flying an eBay special... It's way too small for the boat.

Kermit · Dec 7, 2014

cephius (Dave) said:
I purchased my asymmetrical cruising spinnaker from this Hunter Owner's site in 2004. I've been very happy with it. Check out my boat modification page for details on how I rigged it. http://hunter.sailboatowners.com/index.php?option=com_kb&Itemid=267&cat_id=20&aid=8057&page=article&mn=260

I hope to build Dave's bowsprit on my H260. I plan to fly my too-small spinnaker without the sprit first to confirm that it won't be dangerous or look too funny.

Fred · Dec 7, 2014

Here are some pics of one of first times I flew my asymmetrical spinnaker. The boat came with a chutescoop which makes it so much easier to manage.

Meriachee · Dec 7, 2014

We built a sprit for the 270, and that premise is easily adapted to virtually any boat. There are some decent pictures at
http://meriachee.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/sprit-city/

Here's a shot of the first test sail with the kite. Of note is that this kite is a lot larger than the factory spec, the foot is a full 6' longer, given the summer breezes (or lack thereof) up here in the frozen north, we'll take any angle we can. Next on the list, and partially complete is a top-down furler project based on the 400 series Ronstan continuous line furler. All in all much cheaper than an off the shelf top down unit, and just as effective.

Cheers
Gary

Crazy Dave Condon · Dec 8, 2014

A larger jib on either the 26 or 260 would not work due to the design of the rigging plus most folks forget that the mainsail is actually larger on the Hunters than others vs a standard main due to no backstay as a result of the effective B & R rig plus a larger main gives you more power where needed. Therefore, a spinnaker is most suited which is the standard route to go. You are receiving a lot of good information on that which I will defer to the others.

twodzusfittings · Dec 9, 2014

Cephius Dave, your solution seems quite interesting. My question is how do you stop the point from being pulled to port or starboard? Have you pinned the wrap around bracket to stay in one place, or is it pure tension when clamping it around the pulpit railing.

Attached is my solution. I have a simple pulpit bracket with a quick link on. I attach my block for the spinnaker to either side, does not matter which ( I put one on each side to make it look symmetrical).

C Jones · Dec 10, 2014

I put a furling gennacker on my h23.Works great on on my inland lake. Good to hear from you again Tgrass, pics of it in my profile for you.

cephius (Dave) · Dec 10, 2014

I've drilled divots to accept the set screws to prevent rotation.

twodzusfittings · Dec 10, 2014

"I've drilled divots to accept the set screws to prevent rotation."

That makes a lot of sense.

Jackdaw · Dec 10, 2014

twodzusfittings said:
"I've drilled divots to accept the set screws to prevent rotation."

That makes a lot of sense.

Still, the base of that part would be under HUGE load on a reach. I figure it breaks in 12 knots on the beam. If you could triangulate the base with two upper legs (instead of the one) to the sides of the pulpit it would be much stronger.

twodzusfittings · Dec 10, 2014

Taking Jackdaws wise observation of Cephius Dave's construction, I think my application of the pulpit bracket and quick links is stronger. (In my opinion only)

Fred · Dec 16, 2014

It may not be that clear from the pics that I posted previously but the tack of my asym spinnaker has a two arm bridle. The PO told me to attach one end to the U-Bolt on the bow and the other arm of the bridle is wrapped around the forestay/furler. This seemed to work well for me once I learned to ensure that all lines related to the spinnaker need to be to the outside of anything on the boat (eg. furler, pulpit, stays, sheets etc.)

What would be the benefit of a bowsprit as discussed in the thread?

justsomeguy · Dec 16, 2014

Fred said:
It may not be that clear from the pics that I posted previously but the tack of my asym spinnaker has a two arm bridle. The PO told me to attach one end to the U-Bolt on the bow and the other arm of the bridle is wrapped around the forestay/furler. This seemed to work well for me once I learned to ensure that all lines related to the spinnaker need to be to the outside of anything on the boat (eg. furler, pulpit, stays, sheets etc.)

What would be the benefit of a bowsprit as discussed in the thread?

How's the chafe on the furled sail?

Fred · Dec 17, 2014

I agree that the wrap around the forestay seemed a bit unconventional to me. The bridle wraps around about two or three times to prevent continuous movement, the furled sail has quite a heavy UV strip protecting it so for the amount I use the spinnaker I don't expect chafing is a problem but I will keep an eye on it.

Last summer was my first with this boat so I didn't get a lot of experience with the spinnaker given all the other aspects of the boat that I had to get used to. Looking forward to more practice with it next season.

justsomeguy · Dec 17, 2014

You might want to look into making a string of parrel beads.

As to your question regarding a bowsprit, it helps to keep the kite as far forward of the forestay as possible, looks nautical, and allows the marina to charge a little extra for dockage.

Fred · Dec 17, 2014

So maybe the concept is not as unconventional as I thought. I had to look up "parral"....

Nautical. a sliding ring or collar of rope, wood, or metal that confines a yard or the jaws of a gaff to the mast but allows vertical movement.

before I took my wife's string of "pearl" beads.

Thanks for the info.

twodzusfittings · Dec 17, 2014

I have the beads or parral on mine, but this is used only to set up the spinnaker as I understand it. The tack Downhaul sheet runs through a block which is attached to the bowsprit via a pulpit clamp and quick link. The sheet runs back to the cockpit. Once the spinnaker shute is lifted and it is full of wind, then the parral is released to let the spinnaker fly. The aim is to keep the spinnaker horizontal and let it fly like a kite in front of the boat, pulling the boat. Mine spinnaker is a Asymetrical and is positioned either port or starboard pending the wind.

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