Spinnaker Sock. wanted

Oct 18, 2019
2
Catalina 30TR Truckee
Hey team,
I finally got my standing rigging in good shape and had the spinnaker halyard pulled down from the top of the mast. Yes, it is nice to have all of the lights working with new spreader lights. I have a symetrical spinnaker for the tall rig and would like to have a spinnaker sock so I can shorthand the use of the kite. I am looking for a good spinnaker sock.... Any advice on the best and most reliable? I am looking for a 40'to 43' sock. It is a Catalina 30 TR.
Thank you,
CW
 
Feb 21, 2013
4,638
Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA
I have a new in the box ATN sock and tacker and a used once (in the Jazz Cup from San Francisco to Benicia) asymmetrical spinnaker CDI furler with luff rope, continuous furling line and stanchion blocks to deploy and furl-in from the cockpit. Works great. Reason I did not use the ATN sock is because I was happier with the CDI furler operation.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,198
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
When you say "short hand" does that mean you have one other competent crew member besides yourself, or just yourself and an inexperienced crew, or are you thinking "single handed"? The reason I ask: managing a symmetrical spinnaker and pole requires a competent, experienced crew on the fore deck. Single handed requires an extremely reliable auto pilot and all the requisite controls in the same area at the mast. Without one or the other I wouldn't mess with it... instead I'd invest in an asymmetrical sail on a roller furling system.... getting rid of the pole altogether.

Launching a symmetrical spinnaker with a pole via a dousing sock can actually be somewhat more complicated than it seems. It's actually easier to hook up the sail while it's in the turtle clipped to the lifelines and hoist directly out of the bag. One less step.. since you don't have to hoist the sock package first, then launch. Taking it down also requires the same extra step.... and you might find a "dousing line" or "take down string" to be more efficient. This is a line attached to the center of the sail that the foredeck crew can use to control the takedown.

Regarding "brand" of dousing sock... they're all pretty much the same... there's a plastic or resin hoop attached to the mouth of a fabric tube that has some lifting tackle sewn inside at the top to raise the cover, exposing the sail. Any sailmaker will fabricate one for you. The ATN is pricey... so look around.. but remember...

What will make this all feasible is not going to be the brand of sock you buy, but on how well you thought out the process and set up the requisite rigging. If you go with an asymmetrical... you only need an adjustable tackline, sheets, halyard, and perhaps a set of twings on the sheets for better sail trim. With a symmetrical you'll need halyard, sheets, no tack line.... but pole handling gear includes a mast connection for inboard end, a topping lift , a fore guy, and a pair of separate after guys (or modify your sheets to multi purpose sheet/guy) Have fun.
 
Oct 18, 2019
2
Catalina 30TR Truckee
When I say shorthanded, I meant my partner who has some sailing experience. I do have an autopilot but prefer someone on the wheel while I am on the foredeck dealing with retracting the spinnaker, lines, Pole etc etc.
 
May 29, 2018
588
Canel 25 foot Shiogama, japan
I wouldn't mess with it... instead I'd invest in an asymmetrical sail on a roller furling system.... getting rid of the pole altogether.

Hi Joe .
That reminds me of the guy who sees an ad for four free tires and when he turns up for the freebies is told that he will have to buy the car to get them. Asym roller furling might be great, BUT it would be way more expensive than a sock. (Actually I made mine, but my boat is only 24 feet) Socks are great when (as you suggest) you get it sorted out, but that goes with most sailing gear.

gary
 
Aug 1, 2011
3,972
Catalina 270 255 Wabamun. Welcome to the marina
Totally different sails, and the way they are handled.
 
Sep 22, 2018
1,869
Hunter 216 Kingston
@ChillyWillie

I notice your profile indicates you sail in SF bay, where things can get pretty “breezy” on a frequent basis. @sail sfbay indicated above what he chose to do in your area.

Valid point that a top down furler and sail would cost a lot more than a sock but it would minimize foredeck work.

Your boat - your choice
 

Ted

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Jan 26, 2005
1,272
C&C 110 Bay Shore, Long Island, NY
I've had a few different styles of spinnaker socks. They all work about the same. I found that the socks with the fiberglass or hard plastic mouth openings can be dangerous at times. If you get hit in the face while deploying it, you can inflict some serious damage to yourself. In breezy conditions it can whip around as you douse the spinnaker, otherwise they're a great way to control a spinnaker shorthanded and inexpensively.
 
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