Can anyone give me a quick run down on whats needed to fly a spinnaker on a 23.5. I'm not sure if i need to run another line on the mast or just use the jibline. My main concern though is all the pieces parts on the deck to control it. Also i am looking for the most economical and ease of use setups since solo most of the time. Any help/pics would be great... Thx...greg
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You could use the jib line
You could use your jib line. Then all you need is a tack line from the bow leading back to the cockpit, and the sheets on each side. It's best to have the spin in a chute for easy deployment. Otherwise you have to fold the thing very very accurately to avoid getting a wrap. 1. Raise the chute or spin using the jib line. 2. Attach the tack to the bow and run line aft. 3. Attach the sheet to the side you're flying. 4. Be sure sheet is completely outside the lifelines. Some recommendations: A. Choose a light wind, perhaps 8-10 knots. B. Before flying the spin, sail downwind a few hundred yards to be sure the wind is right. C. Off the wind is better, faster and safer than literally downwind. D. Beam reach is even better. E. Once everything is down, be sure to gather up the sheets before they wind up trailing in the water where they can foul the prop. Very too bad, that one.
You could use your jib line. Then all you need is a tack line from the bow leading back to the cockpit, and the sheets on each side. It's best to have the spin in a chute for easy deployment. Otherwise you have to fold the thing very very accurately to avoid getting a wrap. 1. Raise the chute or spin using the jib line. 2. Attach the tack to the bow and run line aft. 3. Attach the sheet to the side you're flying. 4. Be sure sheet is completely outside the lifelines. Some recommendations: A. Choose a light wind, perhaps 8-10 knots. B. Before flying the spin, sail downwind a few hundred yards to be sure the wind is right. C. Off the wind is better, faster and safer than literally downwind. D. Beam reach is even better. E. Once everything is down, be sure to gather up the sheets before they wind up trailing in the water where they can foul the prop. Very too bad, that one.
Doyle's Website also...
While not specific to your boat, Doyle explains what is needed and how to rig it. Good luck.
While not specific to your boat, Doyle explains what is needed and how to rig it. Good luck.
Thx...
Thx for the info... this is a learning experience so we'll see how it goes. Definately going to try this in light light air the first time to see how things work. thx again....greg
Thx for the info... this is a learning experience so we'll see how it goes. Definately going to try this in light light air the first time to see how things work. thx again....greg
According to Hunter...
My owner's manual (1993) list the following: Spinaker block - Schaefer 303-71 Swivel block - Schaefer 303-62 (3) Topping lift block - Z-Spar Fixed mast eye - Z-Spar Spinaker pole - Z-Spar Looks like these could be stock items. Lines are 60 ft. 3/8" for the spinaker halyard, 35 ft. 5/16" for the pole topping lift, 30 ft. 5/16" for the foreguy and 45 ft. 3/8" for the sheets.
My owner's manual (1993) list the following: Spinaker block - Schaefer 303-71 Swivel block - Schaefer 303-62 (3) Topping lift block - Z-Spar Fixed mast eye - Z-Spar Spinaker pole - Z-Spar Looks like these could be stock items. Lines are 60 ft. 3/8" for the spinaker halyard, 35 ft. 5/16" for the pole topping lift, 30 ft. 5/16" for the foreguy and 45 ft. 3/8" for the sheets.
i was told..
I could fly the spinnaker like a Asymetrical even tho its a triradial type. I'm not racing or anything just want to add some color to the boat while sailing. PLus i sail solo most of the time so the spin pole may be too much hassle. I did pick up an ATN spinnaker sleeve to make it easier to deploy. Thanks for the parts list tho, i will eventually get all the needed parts to fly it properly. Has anyone flown a spin with out the spinnaker pole? The only thing i'm wondering about is how it will look when its full. Is even worth deplying like that? If it looks distorted or will cause harm to the sail then i wont even bother and just wait till i get all the parts. Again i am just learning so take it easy on me
I know there will be someone thinkin "what the hell is this guy doing?" thx again....greg
I could fly the spinnaker like a Asymetrical even tho its a triradial type. I'm not racing or anything just want to add some color to the boat while sailing. PLus i sail solo most of the time so the spin pole may be too much hassle. I did pick up an ATN spinnaker sleeve to make it easier to deploy. Thanks for the parts list tho, i will eventually get all the needed parts to fly it properly. Has anyone flown a spin with out the spinnaker pole? The only thing i'm wondering about is how it will look when its full. Is even worth deplying like that? If it looks distorted or will cause harm to the sail then i wont even bother and just wait till i get all the parts. Again i am just learning so take it easy on me
I know there will be someone thinkin "what the hell is this guy doing?" thx again....gregSymmetrical Flown Like Asymmetrical
Hello, I do in fact fly my symmetrical spinnaker like an asymmetrical on my 26.5. I run one of the clews to the bow via adjustable tack line and the other clew gets both sheets. I have all lines led back to the cockpit and once I get the jib down, flying it is a breeze. I fly this kite single-handed all the time in light winds. (notice I said light winds) Flying the sail in this manner dictates that you cannot sail as deep as one would with the spinnaker out in front of the boat (how it would fly on a spinnaker pole), I usually sail on a deep beam reach rather than a run. I also use a homemade strap to keep the tack of the sail on the headstay. Basically I took a one foot piece of webbing and put rings on each end, this goes around the headstay and attaches to the snap shackle attached to the tack of the sail. I do not have a roller furling headsail, so this works for my particular situation. I don't recommend using a simple webbing strap on a furled headsail, that is what the tacker is for. Regards.
Hello, I do in fact fly my symmetrical spinnaker like an asymmetrical on my 26.5. I run one of the clews to the bow via adjustable tack line and the other clew gets both sheets. I have all lines led back to the cockpit and once I get the jib down, flying it is a breeze. I fly this kite single-handed all the time in light winds. (notice I said light winds) Flying the sail in this manner dictates that you cannot sail as deep as one would with the spinnaker out in front of the boat (how it would fly on a spinnaker pole), I usually sail on a deep beam reach rather than a run. I also use a homemade strap to keep the tack of the sail on the headstay. Basically I took a one foot piece of webbing and put rings on each end, this goes around the headstay and attaches to the snap shackle attached to the tack of the sail. I do not have a roller furling headsail, so this works for my particular situation. I don't recommend using a simple webbing strap on a furled headsail, that is what the tacker is for. Regards.
thx Clayton....
You answered my question the way i was thinking. I use about a 12" piece of line attached to the headstay when i use my genoa to avoid sail chaf from the bow rail. Also my storm jib is flown like that too. I will try the Spinnaker and see how that works... but from what your saying its not a prob other than pointing... so thats cool i can work with that. Thz again.... greg
You answered my question the way i was thinking. I use about a 12" piece of line attached to the headstay when i use my genoa to avoid sail chaf from the bow rail. Also my storm jib is flown like that too. I will try the Spinnaker and see how that works... but from what your saying its not a prob other than pointing... so thats cool i can work with that. Thz again.... greg
Now all you have to do is go have fun...
Greg, I was thinking last night, use the tack line to control the height of the tack and get the sail shape correct. One thing that I learned through racing on another boat is that a spinnaker can be carried a little higher if you pull the tack line tight. This will tighten the luff of the sail so you can go somewhat higher than a run. You'll know how high your particular sail will go, because it just won't stay filled past a certain point. Just remember to ease the line when you bear off. Regards...
Greg, I was thinking last night, use the tack line to control the height of the tack and get the sail shape correct. One thing that I learned through racing on another boat is that a spinnaker can be carried a little higher if you pull the tack line tight. This will tighten the luff of the sail so you can go somewhat higher than a run. You'll know how high your particular sail will go, because it just won't stay filled past a certain point. Just remember to ease the line when you bear off. Regards...
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