Spin for 2008 ben 31 oceanis
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A good sailmaker will have sizes for you. There are generally a few configurations, sizes, and weights. All depending on your use.
A good starting point after understanding when you want to use it (wind strength and points of sail) would be to go to a sailmakers site, ie North. Their site will then guide you to the type of sail.
A good starting point after understanding when you want to use it (wind strength and points of sail) would be to go to a sailmakers site, ie North. Their site will then guide you to the type of sail.
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We like to build them so the fly up off the deck...this provides more adjustable to shape (greater wind and angle range) and importantly great visibility under the sail when you are clocking around at full speed!
170% on the foot is as big as you'll probably need..any bigger and they aren't as efficient (more to hide behind the mainsail) and bigger is more to handle.
Bob Pattison
Neil Pryde Sails
We like to build them so the fly up off the deck...this provides more adjustable to shape (greater wind and angle range) and importantly great visibility under the sail when you are clocking around at full speed!
170% on the foot is as big as you'll probably need..any bigger and they aren't as efficient (more to hide behind the mainsail) and bigger is more to handle.
Bob Pattison
Neil Pryde Sails
I have one for mine, but went with a 180% with big shoulders because I wanted a good runner. In hindsight, I would not do that again, but would probably go with about a 165%.
One thing you might look at before ordering a sail is how your spin halyard will interact with your jib furler. The sheeve for the halyard is really close to the forestay attachment, and I found that there would be a really tight "fit" between the furler swivel/preventer and the spin head/shackle when hoisted. So, I did something different.
I run my halyard to the masthead sheeve and then bring it down the front of the mast to a halyard diverter installed at the black band.
This picture shows the spin halyard at the "factory" sheeve:
The red line is the spin halyard and you can see how snug it is to the forstay and furler swivel and preventer.
Originally I wanted to simply fly it from the mast head (after checking with Beneteau and the mast manufacturer to make sure the mast could handle the loads), but got concerned with halyard chafe since the sheeves have hard castings around them that could cut into the line. To avoid that, I installed the diverter at the black band. The halyard exits at the mast head and then runs down the front of the mast to the diverter. The spin is hoisted to the diverter.
This picture shows the mast head sheeves and the reason for the chafe concerns:
The diverter looks something like this:
It has worked out very well. The spin is larger than standard due to its longer ISP measurement of 40' 10" instead of 37'. The only thing I would do different is go with a 165% or so to have a spin that is more versatile. The 180% is not very good for reaching.
One caveat, if you have a furling mast, this will not likely work for you.
One thing you might look at before ordering a sail is how your spin halyard will interact with your jib furler. The sheeve for the halyard is really close to the forestay attachment, and I found that there would be a really tight "fit" between the furler swivel/preventer and the spin head/shackle when hoisted. So, I did something different.
I run my halyard to the masthead sheeve and then bring it down the front of the mast to a halyard diverter installed at the black band.
This picture shows the spin halyard at the "factory" sheeve:
The red line is the spin halyard and you can see how snug it is to the forstay and furler swivel and preventer.
Originally I wanted to simply fly it from the mast head (after checking with Beneteau and the mast manufacturer to make sure the mast could handle the loads), but got concerned with halyard chafe since the sheeves have hard castings around them that could cut into the line. To avoid that, I installed the diverter at the black band. The halyard exits at the mast head and then runs down the front of the mast to the diverter. The spin is hoisted to the diverter.
This picture shows the mast head sheeves and the reason for the chafe concerns:
The diverter looks something like this:
It has worked out very well. The spin is larger than standard due to its longer ISP measurement of 40' 10" instead of 37'. The only thing I would do different is go with a 165% or so to have a spin that is more versatile. The 180% is not very good for reaching.
One caveat, if you have a furling mast, this will not likely work for you.
Jim/Bob/TJ - theses are absolutely great insights!! Thanks so very much for taking the time to respond.
Where do you guys sail out of? I'm in London now and anticipate doing the bulk of my sailing here in the solent with the occasional sail across the channel to France.
Many thanks!!
Chuck
Where do you guys sail out of? I'm in London now and anticipate doing the bulk of my sailing here in the solent with the occasional sail across the channel to France.
Many thanks!!
Chuck
If you are going to be sailing in the Solent, FOR SURE get advice from a local sailmaker on kites. The typical breeze is around 15-20 knots, so you have to be set up for that. If you need help finding one, ring up Ancasta, the local Bene dealer in Southhampton. They can sort you out.
The mod Jim made is clever and well founded. It works best on 9/10s fractional boats. You want to be sure (as he did) that mounting the halyard above the hounds will not subject the mast to stresses that can lead to failure.
If you do that, be SURE to put backing places behind the halyard restrainer, and use SS rivets. These two rivets (and the mast section there are pulling on) are taking the entire load of the spinnaker.
PS - Our little First 260 was bought at Ancasta, for fun we sometime still fly our older main with the GBR-5443T sail numbers. Always gets looks.
The restrainer that I used was attached with three machine screws on each side, tapped into the mast. So far, so good, after three years.
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