Some thoughts after being at the Seattle Boat Show

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Les Blackwell

I've just finished "working" at the Seattle In The Water Boat Show as well as spending a day at the Convention Center Boat Show. I was a greeter at Signature Yachts, explaining Hunters to visitors. I have some comments to make in general--no response is necessary--more to solidify my thinking then anything else. Before I say more, please understand that I am a bias individual who has had four hunters and am currently enjoying very much my H380. I also like most boats for one reason or another. I haven't sailed to Hawii but have coastal cruised for forty years toward Alaska, but have never gotten to Alaska--someday, maybe. I use to race alot and have my fair share of trophies. So, with that caveat, let me say I saw many beautiful sail boats at the Seattle In the Water Boat Show and I met many charming, intelligent and interesting boat lookers--some who owned boats and some who did not. Early on, I met Phil of this bullentin board's fame and it was very nice to meet him. Now I know why this bullentin board is one of the best. We boat owners are fortunate to have this web spot to comment like I'm doing at the moment. I later met another one of the staff at HOW, but for the life of me I can not remember her name. She was also charming and knowledgeable and had a cute dog as well. All dealers had good looking boats on display and they had worked hard to get them in place and have them look good. There were a number of people who were looking to "move up," while another couple who had both lost their job were selling their brand new boat. I sat on the Hunter 356 much of the time. What a beautiful boat and Hunter has kicked it up a notch with their wood work. In several cases, I think Hunter now exceeds some of the higher price boats with the quality of wood work. And my bias view is that Hunter is now leading the pack with a quality boat. Not far behind is Catalina, Jeanneau and Beneteau. Tartan and Sabre are making good looking boats but at a higher price. There were a numbe of boats with in the Mast furling. This item has become popular in the last few years. And there were more arches on other types of boats. A couple of boats had in the Boom furling, however, in talking to both dealers and sailors, this item still needs some work. Apprently, it works well up or down, but if you want to reef, you have a problem with no out haul gear. I had never thought of it. A lot of boats are now coming with a Vacuflush toilets. And people want them. But they use fresh water from your main tank. Given the times this old guy goes to the bathroom, we'd be out of fresh water every other day. Men and women look at boats differently. The women seem to be looking for light and airy boats while guys like the darker more cavelike inside. Must be in our genes. The best part of the boat show work tho, was meeting the people. I met wonderful people from Portland and the rest of Oregon. Canada came down in droves and it was fun talking to them since I live in a Vancouver, BC suburb called Bellingham, WA. There were people from Idaho that were looking for boat for the lakes. This brings me to my first observation. I saw few boats that were geared to the beginning sailor or family. I started with a day sailer and moved up to a Cal 20. Nothing like that at either boat show. Maybe I missed them someplace but I saw nothing in the shows except a trailorable boat from The Sailing Life (Portland Hunter dealer) called a Steward. I guess you start out with a thirty footer these days. I suspect the beginners have to start with used boats. Pity. One person drove me crazy. He came on the Hunter 356 and didn't like anything about the boat! I tried to point out some of the good features but he found something wrong with everything. He didn't like Corion galley tops, they were too heavy, engine access was wrong because you couldn't see something he though you ought to see. It had the wrong type of curtains, and, as far as he was concerned why put the VHF radio out in the cockpit. Idiots! I finally just gave up on him. Turns out that he has a Hunter 340 and has done more long distant cruising that I have. And....he tells people to buy Hunter when he is out cruising. It just doesn't compute. But he make me stretch a bit, always good to do that. Another point that scares me is that I saw tons and tons of powerboats at both boat shows. And they were selling. Bayliner has done some innovating work and you can get a pretty good boat in twenty four feet for the beginning family. The problem as I see it is that we are going to have a tons of people on the water who have had no education about boats at all. Sailors because of the complexity of sailing take courses. Or they sail with someone else for a while. But power boats just go. I wish that power boat dealers would tell new owners to take a Power Squadron Course. Maybe some do, but I saw little of that--but to be fair, I did not walk around the power boats that much. After sailing for forty plus years, what I did see was an incredible difference is the quality of boats being offered for sail I can remember a boat I bought without life lines, bow pulpit or stern rails and no winches. Forty years ago they were extras. All the boats I saw came very well equipped. Forty years ago, boats came without sails. Todays boats come with well made sails and gear. Todays boats are just a giant leap ahead of what we use to get. But that's the world in general I guess. Thanks to all of you who came aboard. It was fun meeting you. I hope everyone enjoyed the boat show. Les
 
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Gary Wyngarden

Seattle Boat Show

Hi Les, Enjoyed meeting you at the show and seeing the new Hunters from Signature Yachts. The woman you met from the web site was undoubtedly Bly Berken. One thing I was very pleased about was that the only boat I saw that might make me even think new boat cost $400,000. It was a Hylas 46 and really got my attention. However, between the price and the fact that the boat is far too large for the kind of sailing we do, it will remain unpurchased at least by me. Shibumi is for good! Glad you enjoyed the show. Gary Wyngarden S/V Shibumi H335
 
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Ray Bowles

Les, Excellent point about "beginner boats".

There is a large number of wanta be sailers over here in Eastern Washington, Idaho and Montana. When we bought our 95 H26 we had to drive 1100 miles to Denver Colo as there are no sailboat sales anywhere around here. Not to fault any dealers, of any boats, in Seattle area, but when you ask about trailerable, smaller sailboats you can actually feel the phone go cold. Few of us can drive 400 to 500 miles to sail our boats just for the weekend, but I'd bet a heck of alot of us would drive 100 to 150 just to see a new sailboat, sit in it, dream and then hook it up and haul her home. When we sail our 26 I'm amazed at the number of people that come up to see her, climb in and then want to know where to find one. Other than the standard assortment of older Mac's there are very few nice trailer boats in this area. It's back to the 400 to 1100 mile problem. Ray S/V Speedy
 
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Michael

I agree with you Ray...

My wife and I bought our 98 240 2 years ago after going to a boat show in Hartford, CT. The dealer I bought her from spent lots of time with us, answering any and all of our questions. After the sale, there was no more contact from him. Then this past summer, I had our boat docked at or Marina the night before we hauled her out, and I saw a gentleman from the other Hunter dealer in CT. He was doing warranty work on a 36 or something Beneteau. I told him that we owned the Hunter 240 and told him how much we loved it and he gave me this whole "hoity toity" attitude and actually said to me "We don't do anything with the trailerables." Well excuse me......I guess being a 28 year old, buying my first boat, I should have been going for the bigger boats...Some people don't know what brand loyal means. He definitely missed out on our next purchase when we move up.
 
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