Snow Day Thought... Hot Water

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Apr 8, 2010
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Frers 33 41426 Westport, CT
Sitting here after being more or less snowed in for the last 2 days has got me thinking about long term cruising goals (in warm climates), and the technical challenges that need to be overcome.

The thought of hot water came to mind, and solar hot water was the obvious answer for energy conservation. I know many houses use permanent solar hot water heater systems on their roofs, and with the vacuum insulated ones they can even provide hot water in the winter.

What about mounting something like one of these panels (link below) on the cabin top. That area is always a logical, but poor mounting place for solar panels because of the shading from the boom at mid day, however with a hot water system partial shading won't be as detrimental (primarily because it's not a series wired electrical system), and you probably don't need the water to be that hot anyway at mid-day. Adding a solar heater panel there (I already do this on my boat for overnight trips with a solar shower bag as I don't have a hot water system on this boat) would take advantage of the space, and be much easier for plumbing into the cabin than a bimini or davit mounted location.

http://www.amazon.com/SW-37-Solar-Water-Heater-Panels/dp/B0041VM58E/ref=pd_sim_sbs_misc_2

properly plumbed into the inlet side of a small hot water heater with some way to circulate the water through the system, you wouldn't need to heat the water much, if any with electric power or engine coolant, but you would still have the traditional heater there for those cold / overcast / night time hot water needs.

The trick would be a low or no power draw thermostat solution that allows the solar heater to naturally circulate water through the system whenever it is warmer than the water in the hot water heater, and be automatically shutoff / disconnected when the hot water heater is being powered to heat the water hotter than the solar side.
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,218
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
We've found the need for hot water disappears quickly when the air is 85-95 F and the water is only a few degrees cooler.
 
Apr 8, 2010
1,606
Frers 33 41426 Westport, CT
We've found the need for hot water disappears quickly when the air is 85-95 F and the water is only a few degrees cooler.
You've never met my girlfriend, even in the summer her shower better be 120F, or you'll never hear the end of it!
 
Apr 22, 2001
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Hunter 420 Norfolk, VA
You've never met my girlfriend, even in the summer her shower better be 120F, or you'll never hear the end of it!

Run the engine (with a hot water heat exchanger) ...

on a chartered sailboat ....

in the Caribbean.

If that doesn't get her warm enough, ... change girlfriends.
 
Apr 8, 2010
1,606
Frers 33 41426 Westport, CT
Run the engine (with a hot water heat exchanger) ...

on a chartered sailboat ....

in the Caribbean.

If that doesn't get her warm enough, ... change girlfriends.

Been there, Done that. It works, but I'm trying to think about a way to have reasonably consistent and reliable hot water on my as yet hypothetical next boat, and without running the engine. If I were to cross the big pond, I would want to have hot water from time to time and not need to run the diesel to do so.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,353
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Brian,

Google Zodi "Hot Tap Shower." One of our skippers used one. The "normal" caveats about venting gas outside the boat apply.

pm me if you want a copy of the pdf. It's too big to post here.
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
Been there, Done that. It works, but I'm trying to think about a way to have reasonably consistent and reliable hot water on my as yet hypothetical next boat, and without running the engine. If I were to cross the big pond, I would want to have hot water from time to time and not need to run the diesel to do so.
You will likely need to run the engine every couple of days anyway to power your water maker and charge your batteries.
 
Jan 10, 2012
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Nordic 40 Harpswell
Take a look at Precision Temp propane on-demand heater. I had mine set to about 104F so need for mixing, which simplifies the system. One line in, one line out. The units are pricey at about $1500 but my wife is very pleased with it.
 
Jul 8, 2012
144
Helms 25 indiana
I like those on demand water heaters but my little boat doesnt need one of those. I'll just stick with my solar bag. works great for me....
 
Feb 2, 2010
373
Island Packet 37 Hull #2 Harpswell Me
I have just installed a 12V heating element in my hot water tank. But, i dont need to burn battery power, it is linked to my wind turbine and will act as a energy dump when the batteries are fully charged. Win win as i can leave the turbine turning all the time.
 
Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
I have just installed a 12V heating element in my hot water tank.... energy dump when the batteries are fully charged...
What element did you use? $$$ I want to do that with my solar dump.
 

Tom J

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Sep 30, 2008
2,325
Catalina 310 Quincy, MA
What element did you use? $$$ I want to do that with my solar dump.
John at svhotwire.com makes and sells 12v elements for hot water heaters for use as solar/wind power dumps.
 
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