Smallest boat for trans Altantic or trans Pacific crossing...

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Jan 15, 2007
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Tartan 34C Beacon, NY
Ross, CalebD, and Nice N Easy

Ross, You said, “Could you sail for 24 hours if you had someone to help you stand watch? Yes ? good! then you can sail for one day at a time until you have crossed an ocean.” What about using a boat that can sail herself or a boat with a windvane system. I have sailed trans ocean each way and either way works if you want to sail solo. Also if you want to learn how to do a trans ocean sail do longer and longer hops along the coast going farther offshore each time. I think you will learn a lot more that way because of the navigation, provisioning and route planning required. Just my opinion of course. CalebD, Visit anytime but call first. I can be in the boatyard, shop, or one of several other locations. And by the way I built a Bluejay, the baby sister to a 19 foot Lightning as my second boat and cruised on her before getting my first SeaSprite. Talk about the surprised look on someone’s face when I sailed into some places as a kid traveling on a 13 foot open boat. Just going from East Greenwich RI to Block Island RI was a trip. Nice N Easy, Beam is not all it’s cracked up to be. On smaller boats less beam is safer and on most modern boats the beam is too far aft which causes steering problems and it’s also too large which is unsafe in very bad weather. I lived on my 22 foot SeaSprite and also traveled quite a bit on her and found I had enough space for 80 days of supplies without any problems at all. In that boat England was only 40 to 60 days away depending on the weather. All the best, Robert Gainer
 

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Robert Gainer, You are correct and I think that

most cruisers use a wind vane steerer. Donna Lange depended on hers form what I read in her logs.
 
Jun 4, 2004
108
Kokomo Beach
Buckley's Rule of Length

I belive that it was Wm. F. Buckley who either said, or quoted someone, that the rule of thumb for blue water voyaging is make sure you have 1 ft. of boat length for each year of your age. Go figure. :)
 
Jun 4, 2004
273
Oday 25 Alameda
Re: reality check

Thanks for the link moonsailor. I didn't read carefully enough to find out if she had ever been offshore solo before. If you want to participate in the Singlehanded TransPac to HI the qualifier is to go 400nm offshore and come back with a log of your waypoints. Just packing up a boat and heading out without some baby steps first is just asking for it. They provide a series of meetings prior to present all the aspects of long distance single handed pursuits. Some good info on the SingleHanded Sailing Society website: http://www.sfbaysss.org/
 
Jun 7, 2007
875
Pearson- 323- Mobile,Al
Great Dreams Can End abruptly

I was looking at a boat in Niceville Florida and the owner happened to be there and we talked a while. He said that a man in Gadsden Alabama had made the boat in his backyard over about 7 years. They hauled hte boat to Mobile and sailed arund Florida and on the way over to the Bahamas got into a storm. The wife got off the boat and never went back to sea. The man ended up selling the boat after only a few months of cruising. It was a nice welded steel boat but a little out of my price range. I am sure that he never dreamed during his years of making that boat that one storm would end his cruising.
 
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Steve

some kind of storm

That must have been one hell of a storm or the boat is not very sea worthy It could be sea worthy but not a well ballanced boat What ever the reason I would hate to think that one storm no matter the cond. could or would make me give up a dream I had been working on for 7 yrs . I would get rid of the wife before I ever get rid of my boat or keep them both and BE A SOLO SAILOR FOR LIFE
 

CalebD

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Jun 27, 2006
1,479
Tartan 27' 1967 Nyack, NY
The saddest part for me is ...

that I could have visited Robert Gainer (only 50 miles north) but, alas, he has now sailed over the final horizon. Big dreams can end quickly and some of the people in our history have done much more without GPS and chartplotters, much less depth sounders and LORAN etc. Luck aint in it. Skill and pluck and John Vigor's 'black box' have all to do with what you can deal with under adversity. Any boat or captain can fail; it is those that succeed that show us the way.
 
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Capt. Wayne

smallest boat I would cross an ocean in

A nor'sea 27 . It is a great blue water boat and great for gunk holing also It has a fairly wide beam very user friendly extreamly good to weather or crawling on a windward shore in bad weather . I haven't found any weather cond. that she can't handle with the right prep . so start slow till you get the experence. over prepare then go for what you know and live the life you picked
 
Jun 7, 2007
875
Pearson- 323- Mobile,Al
Pacific SeaCraft Orion 27

I met a couple who sailed theirs around the world.They showed me around the boat while it was on the hard getting a bottom job. A little small but large enough for a couple around the world so should be plenty for a solo sailer across an ocean.
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
*yks - Thought this was a dead thread...

LOL... must have been a late easter. So to continue the saga, I still have my eye on a Challenger 32 in Dana Point. The price is coming down. There are several other Challengers on this coast. The only problem, and to me this IS a problem, is finding a home near home. I love boating and I love my Lancer, but at $4/gal and a 52 mile drive to the boat, I am beginning to not like boating anymore. So I have to have a slip in the closest marina to me. That would be Oceanside, Ca., or Camp Pendleton. Both are full of boats that never move and waiting lists are well into the double digits.
 
Sep 24, 1999
1,511
Hunter H46LE Sausalito
you'll need a few jugs of water

Having become accustomed to zipping about in a 46-footer, I'd be reluctant to attempt a passage in anything smaller. That said, I'd choose the Challenger 32 over a Lancer 27 any day, were those my only options. The Challenger is a much more stout boat, with the type of thick, hand-laid hull characteristic of early fiberglass designs. Only carries 40 gallons of water, however, which makes me think they really weren't envisioning ocean passages when they designed her.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
I think that I have read that planning a half gallon

per person per day is minimum for drinking and cooking. Washing is done with sea water.
 
Sep 24, 1999
1,511
Hunter H46LE Sausalito
yikes!

This is a discussion I'd love to have. So as not to hijack this venerable thread, I'll begin a new thread under the subject of "water rationing." I look forward to your thoughts on the matter.
 
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