Slow Hunter 27

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rvh111

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Oct 6, 2008
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Hunter 33 Pittwater, NSW, Australia
Hi there...can anyone tell me how I can get my Hunter 27 (2007 model) to sail faster. I have been in 2 races (albeit in light winds) and other yachts (not Hunters) sail past me as if I'm going backwards??? Any advice???
cheers Roger :confused:
 

Clark

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Jun 30, 2004
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Hunter 280 Lake Guntersville, AL
Does this model have the furling main? If so, you lose a lot of sail performance since there is practically a negative roach. That feature is very nice for ease of use and cruising - not so much for racing. A dock neighbor has a Bene w/ furling main and for races, he removes it and uses a 'normal' sail. I've been with them a couple of times and it makes a difference.
Another factor is experience with the boat. Is it a shoal/wing? Our 280 has one and it just has too much leeway to move as efficiently to weather as some others. Also, trim of the main is critical as it is the primary mover of the boat. Another aspect is the swept spreader/no backstay. If you sailed wing-wing down wind, that hurts too. Try sailing up a bit; say at ~135-150* instead of dead down wind (180*).
Hope this helps.
 

Ray T

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Jan 24, 2008
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Hunter 216 West End - Seven Lakes
re: slow Hunter

If you want to be competitive it depends on how much you want to spend. Do you have a folding prop? It makes a big difference in light air. In light air a furling jib with a u.v. protective leech cover is not as efficient as a jib without. The extra weight on the leech in light air doesn't help sail shape a protective sock would be better. Usually stock sails are good for cruising but not for racing. Custom sails are usually made from better cloth and have a better shape. Do you have a traveler? This helps with sail shape. Do you have an easily adjusted outhaul? this allows a more powerful shape off the wind. How much experience do you have? a more experienced sailor will beat an inexperienced sailor every time. Do you get excited enough about the race that you lay awake at night thinking about how you could have done things differently? this shows a competitive nature and enthusiasm and a desire to learn. Your boat may never be first across the finish line but if you keep working at it you will win your share of races on handicap. Good luck and fast sailing. Ray T
 

Les

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May 8, 2004
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Hunter 27 Bellingham, WA
Fun question. I, too, have a Hunter 27 (2009 model--different wood interior only change) and have only sailed it a few times. I have roller furling main and jib and so far feel like I would be competitive with other like size types of boats. If you have a furling main, know that is is taller then the regular main and that will help you in light airs. The main is very big and demands a lot of attention--sheet control, traveler control, outhaul control as well as halyard tension.

The jib is much smaller then those with traditional boats--more like a Thunderbird (T-bird) that we have here in the Northwest. The jib sheet block appears to be sensitive to where you set it--watch your tell tails on the jib.

But another variable might be your prop. I'm using a Max feathering three blade prop and I don't think it is slowing us up at all.

I think the boat is fast--there is a racing version called the Hunter 27X. So it appears that Hunter designed the hull to be quick. My wife and I have had the boat up to 7 knts under sail in 10 to 12 knts of wind. I suspect weight placement will be important if I race this boat.

By the way to Clark--I had a Hunter 35.5 with the bulb wing keel and you are correct. We could not point with the other boats but after I realized this, we would foot off on our own and much of the time be at the windward mark before the rest of the fleet. It drove them crazy and one other skipper actually accused us of turning on our engine. Going downwind, the bulb wing keel was fast and we normally passed other boats in the fleet (if they were ahead of us). With that bulb wing keel we won boat of the year one season sailing against the usual club racers like J35 and J36, C&C 36s, Sabers, Cals and the usual Ericksons and Newports. You have to adjust to the characteristics of your boat. With the bulb wing keel you just could not point but rather fall off and foot.

Keep in touch RVN and let us know how you do. I'm thinking of maybe racing again next season with the H27.

Les
 

rvh111

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Oct 6, 2008
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Hunter 33 Pittwater, NSW, Australia
Re: slow Hunter

Many thanks for good advice.....and yes I do lie awake wondering what I did wrong?? As I am a beginner that may have a lot to do with it. I am considering a folding prop as well :)
 

rvh111

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Oct 6, 2008
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Hunter 33 Pittwater, NSW, Australia
Hi there...Again I would like to thank you for giving me some "tips". I suspect I have a lot to learn and it may take some time to get the necessary experience. ..I'll keep trying ...and blame myself and not the boat :)
cheers Roger (Australia where there are only a few Hunters)
 
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