Six Months aboard an H33

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Aug 5, 2006
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Hunter 33 brisbane
After spending six months cruising the Queensland coast on board Sweet Mango I thought that it might be useful to H33 owners (2003 onwards) if I catalogued some of my thoughts, problems and mods.
1. On week 1 whilst anchoring in a current with some cross wind the boat swung round and bent the stempiece to 90 deg. The material is far too thin, take a look at other boats. It wasn't a cheap fix had to remove it and had it cut off behind the roller and welded a new channel piece inside the old fitting.
2. On week two the forestay snapped about 1 cm below the top of the drum, when I was tensioning it up after replacing the stem fitting. On examination it had been only hanging on by four strands as the other ones were were blackened. It would appear that it had been like this from new. Furlex were not helpful thay just said they had never seen one break before. The good news was that the mast did not come down it was just very wobbly.
3. The limiting issue for cruising turned out to be water. We could last for a maximum of nine days before having to find somewhere to filll the tanks. Swipes turned out to be brilliant for washing one each day for the face and body and another for the nether regions! I am investigating a Katadyn water maker which produces 6 litres per hour at 4 amps.
4. Three 80 watt solar panels provided all the power necessary for all loads including an additional Wahcol fridge/freezer. I was using around 75 ah/day and was typically minus 40ah by sun up. Total battery capacity was 400 ah. Only had to run the motor once for charging during a rainy spell.
5. Mattresses and cushions stuffed after six months, technically the foam had collapsed and bums were on solid ground! Am replacing with some better quality foam.
6. Rudder bearings seem very loose/worn with shaft wobble felt through wheel. Has onyone experience in replacing these?
7. Single line reefing has too much line flogging around in a blow. Have modified with one line one luff and another on leach for both reefs. Works well.
8. Windless power cable came lose at connection under front cabin bulkhead. Sympton was I coundn't get anchor up and thought it was mechanically jammed. This took a lot of time to diagnose. Lesson to other owners - get your head in there and check the connections
9. Rudder full of water. drilled hole at base to drain. seems to get in via top of shaft.
10. Standard assymetric Spinnaker is brilliant. When you let her go its like dropping your foot on the accelerator. Also you can reach to about 60 deg with it
11. Hanging space is not much use and I converted both front and rear to shelves. Able to carry many more clothes this way.
12. Creaking noise has emerged from the rear bulkhead making sleeping there impossible when not in calm water. Very hard to isolate where coming from and am reluctant to start tearing apart. Beating corner near rear passge with a rubber hammer helps for a while but then it comes back. Ayone else experience this?
13. When motoring (3YM30) after about four hours or so (and this happens every time) the rev counter goes to zero and also the hour meter stops counting. Switch off for a few minutes and it comes back again. Someone told me that this happens to Yanmars if the voltage goes much over 14v which is crazy. Any comments?
All I can think of for the present.
Nick
 
Aug 5, 2006
121
Hunter 33 brisbane
Couple more things:
1. Forgot about the Dingy storage. The forward part of the Hunter Bimini I find gets in the way so I removed the frame cut it into two and the two pieces with the redundant struts made a perfect set of Davits which attached to the pushpit vertical SS by the "sit there and shut up seats". The dingy sat there for the whole trip.
2. The front canvas of the Bimini now rolls up to the arch when sailing and is attached to the Dodger with shockcord when required.
3. Fitted a Manson supreme anchor - brilliant, fantastic holding power. Only problem it does not always come up the right way round and during the coaxing period tends to swing in and hit the bow with its super sharp point, Got quite a few nasty chips in the fibreglass. Manson need to think this through with some sort of bias
Nick
 

Sailm8

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Feb 21, 2008
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Hunter 29.5 Punta Gorda
Great post. You should post to Ask all Sailors for more readers/replies
 
Jun 30, 2004
446
Hunter 340 St Andrews Bay
Please post pictures of your modifications. Sounds like the answer for which we are looking. You put more "use" on that boat than others will get in six YEARS!
 

roan

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Aug 20, 2005
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Hunter 33 Montreal
Hunter 33

From what you describe you might have bought a lemon. The last 3 years I slept on my boat (2006 H 33) about 30 days per year and sailed hard, in fresh water only though. I have not had any of those problems. I have the spinnaker with sock as well and love it for down wind. I find it tough to keep spin full when using main as well and usually sail with just the spin. It gives enough power anyway. I agree with you on the angle of sail and in fact have pushed my spin even further than you say. I would be interested to hear from you what you think of as size for a live aboard. I am thinking of living aboard in the US intercoastal / Florida/ Bahamas area. Potable Water would not be a problem for this area. Are you alone or with one other person? I upgraded the rear mattress at the start and have no complaints but I have no doubt the stock ones would go flat. I have been thinking of upgrading for size alone. I have no concerns about sailing this boat in the ocean etc. it can handle it but was worried about cabin fever. Thoughts?
 
Aug 5, 2006
121
Hunter 33 brisbane
Roan - I wouldn't call it a lemon I was just pointing out some of the things that have occurred after 5 years hard use.There were two of us aboard for the six months, I belive that the size is fine for living aboard for if you are sailing regularly and have a base on shore. The reason I say this is that if I was a Marina dweller, and there appear to be a lot of these using their boats as caravans, then I would buy an older much larger vessell. However for our type of use ie sailing away for several months at a time but still having a home back in Brisbane what I like about the H33 is how easy it is to sail short handed. Sail size is manageable, it is manouverable in marinas, freeboard relatively low for my partner to go over with the lines, (we are in our late 60s) anchor not too heavy etc. and sailing anything other than on the nose she can keep up with much bigger boats. We were in company with several boats in the 38' - 45' range on the last cruise and were never the last into the anchorage.
By the way I use a boom brake and set the spinnaker on the opposite side of the main when going dead down wind.
 

roan

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Aug 20, 2005
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Hunter 33 Montreal
That is certainly encouraging that two of you were able to support the size of the boat for 6 months. If 5 years old then I assume one of the first 33's. They might have improved some of the bugs that surely came from owners in a couple years. My sail # 327. I agree with your sail characteristics except very light wind up wind. There, I find the small 110 Genoa does not compete with the 150-170 hunkers! But give her some wind and she goes like stink! I too beat many larger boats once wind north of say 8 knots. Agree with yur comments on maneuvering in harbors and ease of singlehanding. You have given me an idea. I will try the spin wing on wing next chance I get and apply the boom brake.
Fair winds!
ROAN
 

BruceK

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Jul 26, 2005
74
Hunter 33 Portland, ME
Fellas...this chit-chat has made my day...just had delivered #498 after 8 years in two different H30T's and looking forward to this one even though the interior fit and finish is just ok compared to the previous. Running/standing rigging is superior, however. The delivery was 11 hrs on a flat sea, though..bummer, but at 3300rpm all the way, showed ave 6.3kts on the water...not 7kts @ 3K on this one (full lead keel).
 
Sep 20, 2006
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Hunter 33 Georgian Bay, Ontario, Canada
Ours is #278., this is our third season, previous owner barely used it for the first two seasons.


Interesting about the stem piece. We've had our anchor down in 52 knot winds and the stem / roller held up fine. We where healing quite substantially with each gust and held there for several seconds, putting a lot of perpindicular strain on the stem.

Our limiting cruising so far, ( 1 - 1 1/2 weeks) is the holding tank more so than the water. We cannot discharge overboard anywhere here. Showers are a jump in the lake each morning with biodigradeable shampoo.

I'd be very interested is seeing pictures or learning about your battery set-up. I will be adding golf cart batteries and am trying to figure out where to put all four plus a dedicated engine start battery ( group 27)

I agree, the stock foam mattress sucks..... we added memory foam which helped but are looking at getting thicker or better real matresses.

I've noticed a slight clunck in the rudder bearing when sailing downwind as the waves push the boat. Not sure if I should be overly concerned yet. I checked it on the hard and seems to minimal play.

Checked my rudder each season for water and seams dry so far. Dealer did warn me about backing hard with rudder all the way over, putting stress ont he rudder / shaft joint and cracking, letting water in.

Good to hear about the spin... looking to add one soon...

I had the same idea about shelves in the closets.... the hanging space is useless.

I've had no problems with the rev on ours, and we do motor for several hours quite often when the wind dies off. Now have over 350 hours.

Put a Rocna on ours, and am very carefull on the last haul up to the roller so it doesn't hit the bow..... although our windless is my arms and back.


Oh and the dodger, ( from another post) just this past weekend heading back to the marina, with 20 - 30 knot winds and 3 ft. waves had several waves spray the height of the windshield and soak the top of the dodger, which is full height to the bottom of the boom. I was more than happy to stay dry, given the water is barely above freezing still and it was cold out as well.

Otherwise, great handling, response and find it quick above 10 knots.
 

roan

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Aug 20, 2005
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Hunter 33 Montreal
I wonder if your speed difference is your salt water vs my clean fresh water. Salt water is heavier I believe.
 
Aug 5, 2006
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Hunter 33 brisbane
Scott B. I have three 100 ah batteries in the Starboard rear locker in the saloon and a similar one for starting in the front locker.
I agree with you on holding tanks but we can discharge in open waters over here.
Mine is #208.
Yesterday we raced in our local WAGS (Wednesday Afternoon Gentlemen Sailors) and the wind got up to 32 knots. We had one reef in and were reaching at 8 knots. Came sixth out of 47 yachts and there were ten retirements! Great day if a bit too windy.
 

rbijas

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Mar 12, 2010
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Hunter Hunter 30 keyport, nj
If, you can use a clamp meter to measure the draw of this circuit; then you could caculate a resistor value in ohms to cause a 1.5 to a 2.0 volt drop. for example if you measure 14 volts (assumed highest voltage before cutout), and you measure a 1 amp draw using the clamp meter, it would be 14 volts divided by 1 amp, which gives you a value of 14 ohms for your resistor. Be sure to buy what ever your value resistor in ohms, in a 1/4 to 1/2 watt range. Splice it directly into the hour meter wire, and try it for a while to see if it solves your problem. if not, look in the archives for this problem. Any quuestions to: rbijas @verizon.net. Rick P.S. This was a possible solution to problem number 13. It will work if the correct value resistor is used and the "real problem" is indeed a voltage over 14 volts d.c. being the cause.
 
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BruceK

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Jul 26, 2005
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Hunter 33 Portland, ME
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From your original list...we share # 5,9,12 and 13...'08 hull 489
 
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