Siren 17 info...?

Nov 23, 2011
2,023
MacGregor 26D London Ontario Canada
I just acquired a Siren 17. I need sails...
I'd also like to put any info about this boat in one easy to find spot.
Right now there is a Private yahoo group...
So if anyone has sail sizes and boom tent sizes and or drawings I'd love to copy them and put everything together.
If you have a link that may be heplful please pass it along.
Here is the sailboatdata.com link:
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=3870

Thanks all!
 

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Clark

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Jun 30, 2004
886
Hunter 280 Lake Guntersville, AL
The IJPE specs shown in Sailboatdata should get you far in selecting/ordering sails.
I ~= jib luff
J = distance from tack fitting to mast
P = main luff
E = main foot (boom length)(try an 8'x6' tarp for a trial boom tent)
 
May 14, 2009
21
Sirius 21 Pelican Yacht Club, Manitoba
Siren info

A good guy to contact is Pat Reagan (Shoretyus) on the Trailer Sailor forum. He used to have a Siren and has moved bigger to a Sirius.
Pat is very knowledgeable about modifications.

DAryl
 
Aug 15, 2012
301
Precision 21 Newburyport MA
Something doesn't seem right with the sailboat data spec for the sails, 22 ft luff on a 17ft boat would be a pretty tall rig. Eyeballing the picture, if it is to scale looks like it should be smaller. Also, looking for new sails came across FX sails that has different dimensions for the sails for your boat. See link below and scroll down to Siren. I would confirm the dimensions over on the yahoo group or measure your own boat before ordering sails. Never owned a Siren but when I first stated looking for a boat I came across a couple.

http://www.fxsails.com/quoter/selectboat.php
 

Clark

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Jun 30, 2004
886
Hunter 280 Lake Guntersville, AL
Tom makes some good points. In any case, a boat that old you don't know what might have been changed by previous owners. Best thing to do is measure for yourself.

Something doesn't seem right with the sailboat data spec for the sails, 22 ft luff on a 17ft boat would be a pretty tall rig. Eyeballing the picture, if it is to scale looks like it should be smaller. Also, looking for new sails came across FX sails that has different dimensions for the sails for your boat. See link below and scroll down to Siren. I would confirm the dimensions over on the yahoo group or measure your own boat before ordering sails. Never owned a Siren but when I first stated looking for a boat I came across a couple.

http://www.fxsails.com/quoter/selectboat.php
 
Nov 23, 2011
2,023
MacGregor 26D London Ontario Canada
Thanks all! I was granted access to the Siren 17 Yahoo group today. There is allot of info on the site. I'm not sure why it's private...?
Anyway here are a few things I found about the sail size... Every thing I could want!

SIREN 17 Sail Dimensions

[FONT=&quot]From Sailrite Sailplan Database [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]http://www.sailritesails.com/[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]THE STANDARD BOAT DIMENSIONS[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Data courtesy of: [/FONT][FONT=&quot]sailrite[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I[/FONT]​
[FONT=&quot]J[/FONT]​
[FONT=&quot]P[/FONT]​
[FONT=&quot]E[/FONT]​
[FONT=&quot]I2/P2[/FONT]​
[FONT=&quot]J2/E2[/FONT]​
[FONT=&quot]17.167ft (5232mm) [/FONT]​
[FONT=&quot]6.42ft (1956mm) [/FONT]​
[FONT=&quot]17.50ft (5334mm) [/FONT]​
[FONT=&quot]8.50ft (2591mm) [/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]CONSTRUCTION AND BACKGROUND DETAILS [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Length:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17.17ft (5233mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Source of Data:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Owner Measurements[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Builder/Designer:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Vandestadt and McGruer [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]URL:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]http://sailquest.com/market/models/siren.htm[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Production Status:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Out Of Production[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Description:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]L.O.A.: 17' 2" (5.24m) L.W.L.: 15' 0" (4.57 m) Beam: 6' 8" (2.03 m) Draft: 8" to 4' 3" Displacement: 750 lbs. (340 kg.) Ballast: 130 lbs. (59 kg.) [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]SAIL DIMENSION TABLES (the more popular sails only) [/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 MAINSAIL[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17.5*ft (5333mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8.5*ft (2590mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Leech-AftHdBd[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]19.1*ft (5821mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Tack Ang[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]88*[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Diag (clew/head)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]19.19*ft (5849mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Head (inches)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4*in (102mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Area (no Roach)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]77.4*ft2 (7191mm2)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT]



[FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 GENOA[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16ft (4876mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]11.25ft (3428mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Leech[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15.5ft (4724mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Perc LP[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]172.17*[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Length Perp[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]10.33*ft (3148mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Deck Angle[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3.85*[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Area[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]82.67*ft2 (7680mm2)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]160% furling genoa[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 JIBSAIL[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16.5ft (5029mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8.25ft (2514mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Leech[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]14.25ft (4343mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Perc LP[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]118.67*[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Length Perp[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]7.12*ft (2170mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Deck Angle[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]10.83*[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Area[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]58.78*ft2 (5461mm2)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT]



[FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 ASYMMETRICAL[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17.13*ft (5221mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]9.9*ft (3017mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Leech[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15.76*ft (4803mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Perc LP[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]165*[/FONT]




[FONT=&quot]Area[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]127*ft2 (11799mm2)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT]



[FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 DRIFTER[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16.75ft (5105mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8.75ft (2666mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Leech[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15.25ft (4648mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Perc LP[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]132.00*[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Length Perp[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]7.92*ft (2414mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Deck Angle[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]5.71*[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Area[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]66.34*ft2 (6163mm2)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]estimated drifter based on original track locations[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 JIBSAIL[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16ft (4876mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]7.42ft (2261mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Leech[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]13.58ft (4139mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Perc LP[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]104.67*[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Length Perp[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]6.28*ft (1914mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Deck Angle[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12.79*[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Area[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]50.21*ft2 (4665mm2)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Furling jib[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 GENOA[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16ft (4876mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]10.67ft (3252mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Leech[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15.58ft (4748mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Perc LP[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]154.21*[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Length Perp[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]9.9*ft (3017mm)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Deck Angle[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1.35*[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Area[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]79.22*ft2 (7360mm2)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]150% furling genoa[/FONT]
 

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Apr 25, 2017
1
Mcgruen Siren 17 Philadelphia
Hi folks, i am looking for a pair of jib cam cleats that attach to a 1inch T track on my siren 17. anyone have two for sale or can send me in the right direction? thanks