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Aug 31, 2004
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Oday 322 St Clair Shores
This has been a great first year with my new boat, as I have gained confidence sailing it in a variety of conditions. I am interested in hearing from some of you who single hand the 170, as it can be hard to stir up crew to join me somedays. My ideal is to get out for an hour or two a day. The wife and kids like to go once in a while, but are not quite as passionate as I. My former boat was an 11 footer, which was great to sail alone, but I wanted more comfort and the ability to take out others once in a while. The 170 fits the bill.
 

gball

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Jun 8, 2004
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Hunter 170 Alachua, FL
170 singlehanding-I'm in the same boat-haha

David, Like yours, my wife (and dog) also ends up staying home while I trailer-sail the 170. Your post doesn't go into rigging (e.g. whether you rig for the season and keep the boat at the dock, on a lift or on a mooring) but if you step the mast/prep the boat each time you go out, I'd first recommend using the topping lift, brought 'round front to a bow mooring cleat to hold the mast up when first stepped--- then use the trailer winch to tension the mast (clamp the winch hook to the main halyard D-shackle--again, bringing the halyard around to the front of the boat--since no first mate is there to help) when attaching the forestay/jib. A couple cranks on the winch gives enough slack on the forestay to make it easily attachable to the furling drum. Also, Johnson lever shroud tensioners are cheap to buy and helpful installed on the upper shrouds, and allow drumtight, fast tensioning of the rig. I recommend prepping reef lines before leaving the dock, even if it seems the breezes will be easy that day. I head up and reef the moment I begin to see that the wind might be building beyond manageble blow. Also I recommend furling up the jib if the breeze is building and questions of continued enjoyment (as opposed to trepidation and fear of capsize) of your sailing day come to mind-- that is, whether you'll be able to maintain plenty of control of the boat (avoiding overpowering leehelm). I'm not afraid of getting wet (I sail Lasers too!) but I just worry about dunking my outboard, lunch, gear, etc.!!!! I douse the jib earlier than later-- let's say 15mph breezes or higher. The full mainsail (not reefed) pulls plenty well on its own and can be spilled (mainsheet eased) with a flick of the wrist in big puffs. My post about being capsized and turtled by a violent down-burst/squall (my fault, not the boat's) has been removed from this site by the administrator, but I would also recommend powering up your aux. power (if you have it) and dropping all sails when questionable weather is seen close-aboard. Better to motor for 10 minutes (and to safety if it turns bad) than to suffer a knockdown at the hands of a sudden blast of wind! I've read on this forum (although I haven't done it yet) that leading the main halyard aft into the cockpit is quite helpful, as my boat doesn't stay pointed to wind when ever I go forward to raise the halyard. Also I've read that the addition of a boom kicker is very helpful and frees one from fussing with the topping lift during sail raising. One other thing related to the topping lift: I recommend tying its bitter end to a chainplate on either side of the boat. If yours is not equipped with a mast float, and you capsize to turned turtle, you'll want that masthead line to tie to a assisting powerboat's line. Enjoy, and please let me know if any of this is actually helpful! Best, Mike G. in "Lil Sport" Alachua, FL
 
Aug 31, 2004
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Oday 322 St Clair Shores
Thanks Mike

I am lucky enough to be able to leave my boat moored all summer, so don't have the rigging matter to deal with. I read your posting about the squall, glad you got through that one without much damage to you or boat. I, too, don't mind getting wet (I've gone over plenty in Lazers and a few times in a JY) but confess to some flutters of anxiety about going over in a boat the size of the 170. Last weekend, I did capsize the boat in waist deep water to see how the hobie float work (wonderfully - righting the boat was just a matter of raising the mast about 6-12" off the water and the boat did the rest). While it was over, I tried to see if I could find what was causing my centerboard to bind - no luck there. I was amazed how much effort it took to capsize the boat - my son and I both hung on the boat, I would grab the shroud, then held onto the shroud with my toes on the edge of the boat and leaned back as far as I could go. The boat kept wanting to round up. I was finally able to wrestle her down with great effort. I repeated this process several times both to practice a capsize drill and to allay my son's nervousness about the stability of the boat (I am a believer!) Granted, circumstances can certainly happen to bring her down, as you can attest to, but she puts up a good fight before going over. As an aside, I was struck by the significant impact of the wind on the capsized hull compared to other boats I have capsized. Having someone on the painter seems extra important.
 

JerryA

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Oct 17, 2004
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Tanzer 29 Jeanneau Design Sandusky Bay, Lake Erie
Centerboard binding?

David - Is your centerboard binding too? Mine was really hard to get it to go down, and then back up into the slot when I first got my 170. I had to take my board out and file the inside of the slot at the bottom edges. I think I removed about an 1/8" off each side. It's like a lip that should have been removed during manufacturing, or at least that's what was hanging mine up. Jerry
 
Aug 31, 2004
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Oday 322 St Clair Shores
centerboard binding

Jerry - yes, the CB seems to be binding, but I can't see where. I spoke with the dealer who said to bring it in, but he is 5 hours away, so it would be great to just do it myself if possible. I did not see any obvious way to take the CB out, what did you do?
 
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JerryA

Removed the screw...

David - I removed the screw at the bottom front of the board. With the board up you can get to it. Once removed it's a matter of moving the board to a position where it can be picked up off the shaft it pivots on. I did mine in my garage, picking the entire boat up on my lift. It was a pain. The first time I used my boat I had a very difficult time getting the board to go down. When I retreived the boat I could only get the board up far enough to clear the trailer. This still left about 3 inches sticking out. I was afraid it would get damaged on the trailer going home, so I crawled under the trailer and pushed it the rest of the way up. That was the last time it would go down. I tried to lower it in the shop and it wouldn't budge. I tried many gentle attempts to free it and it wouldn't go. I finally cut a piece of soft pine that would lay in on top of the board and drove it out with a rubber mallet. Mine is still pretty snug, but it works. Jerry
 
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Thanks Jerry

I'll have to take a look at the boat this weekend when we go up to the lake. I am making progress on winning the wife over to sailing - the other day we were driving past a small lake and she said, "look at the wind out there" I inquired as to what she was referring to and she said "those dark patches on the water..." it slipped out before she even realized it! She has been listening - even if she would never admit it :)
 
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