shaft packing

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Oct 10, 2011
619
Tartan 34C Toms River, New Jersey
I just launched my 34 Tratan, when it was in the well and I ran the engine to set the idle there were no leaks. Now I have a leak, can I change the packing in the water, as I tried to tighten the nut and it didn't stop the leak. Any other suggestions?:confused:
 

kenn

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Apr 18, 2009
1,271
CL Sandpiper 565 Toronto
How much of a leak. Does it only leak when the shaft is turning, and is ok when stopped?

It's possible to change packing in the water, if you can get the packing nut off far enough with the coupling still connected.. Just have everything prepared - all tools handy, new packing precut and greased.
 
Oct 10, 2011
619
Tartan 34C Toms River, New Jersey
How much of a leak. Does it only leak when the shaft is turning, and is ok when stopped?

It's possible to change packing in the water, if you can get the packing nut off far enough with the coupling still connected.. Just have everything prepared - all tools handy, new packing precut and greased.
It leaks all the time.
 
Sep 25, 2008
1,096
CS 30 Toronto
There are usually 3 rings of packing in the stuffing box. If you are not comfortable with gush of water coming into the boat, you can change 2 of the 3 rings. That should keep water coming in to a minimum.

Change them all when you pull the boat next time.
 
Oct 10, 2011
619
Tartan 34C Toms River, New Jersey
There are usually 3 rings of packing in the stuffing box. If you are not comfortable with gush of water coming into the boat, you can change 2 of the 3 rings. That should keep water coming in to a minimum.

Change them all when you pull the boat next time.
How much water would come in? Like a garden hose ?
 
Oct 10, 2011
619
Tartan 34C Toms River, New Jersey
Thanks Stu, the site was helpful. I have a 34C Tartan. But I believe it's the same.
Thanks again,
 
Sep 25, 2008
1,096
CS 30 Toronto
There are usually 3 rings of packing in the stuffing box. If you are not comfortable with gush of water coming into the boat, you can change 2 of the 3 rings. That should keep water coming in to a minimum.

Change them all when you pull the boat next time.
OOPS - Sorry I was thinking of the rudder packing. For the drive shaft the packing material is in the nut.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,354
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
OK, OK, I give up. I've never done it when the boat was not in the water. :)

Good idea, though...:)

HMM, gotta work on that wording even more...
 

wayneR

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Jun 7, 2004
20
Oday 34 Cambridge MD
If you decide to do this, I strongly suggest using Teflon impregnated packing material and teflon lube. Both are available from West Marine and other places. I did it in my ODay 272 and ended up with a almost dripless cool stuffing box. A lot cheaper than a true dripless stuffing box and no need to pull the shaft. I like the post about leaving one ring of packing and replacing 2 but old packing rarely comes out so neatly. Be ready for 3. Good luck!!!!
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,182
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
First as Wayne said the teflon is good packing (used for 4 years), however the grafite is even better (so I am told)... longer lasting and like the teflon no drips and a nice cool nut. Going on 3rd season with grafite and still performing. Second, if I had to change my packing in the water, I would dive down with a large wad of clay and pack the surrounding of the shaft log. Then change the packing casually, dive back down and remove clay. Might get some water but a limited slow flow.

Good Luck.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,354
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
F... if I had to change my packing in the water, I would dive down with a large wad of clay and pack the surrounding of the shaft log. Then change the packing casually, dive back down and remove clay. Might get some water but a limited slow flow.
There is really absolutely NO need to do this. Just wrap a plastic bag around the stern tube while you're doing the packing. INside. :)
 

bria46

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Jan 15, 2011
286
Oday 272 Waukegan, IL, Sarasota, FL
I completely removed my shaft dripping problem by installing a PSS shaft seal. Its the best $200 bucks I've ever spent. I bought mine from Deep Blue Yacht Supply. I had my storage yard install it because they also alligned my engine to Shaft. Total cost under $300.00
 
Dec 1, 1999
2,391
Hunter 28.5 Chesapeake Bay
While most people with experience repacking the gland with the boat in the water will tell you how "easy" it is, the first time you do this you need to be prepared with a Plan B if the Law of Unintended Consequences sets in. You may experience a "lot" of water rushing into your boat from the opened gland/log so be sure your blige pump can handle it. I've used the bicycle tube wrap around the shaft/log to control this inflow and it does work. There are lots of variations on this theme. I've found that it may be difficult to remove/pick out ALL of the old packing material and that is a must. I use a pair of small needle nosed pliers and/or 3" dry wall screws to get all the old material out. Finally, repacking with the right size packing material is crucial. You don't really need to know the diameter of your shaft; what you need to know is the exact clearance between the shaft and the inside of the gland compression nut. Don't let anyone tell you what this size is -- measure this critical distance yourself. After you get the gland repacked and compression nut screwed back on, make sure you can turn the shaft by hand to test for the "right" amount of friction. Tighten up your docklines and run the engine in gear @ about 1200 rpms or so while watching the gland to see how much it leaks and readjust the nut as required. What you really care about is how hot the gland gets after running the engine for a while. The nut should be warmish or cool, but not hot. Check the leak rate, and heat, of the gland every time you use the boat until you are confident all is well there.
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
3,198
1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
i found about a yr ago the formosa i own now and am cruising had never had packing in her packing gland. there was a little ingress of water---but the pump(500 gph) handled it well when used every 2 days for less than 10 mins. this was not the only ingress of water i had--i also have a packing gland on my rudder post. that had almost zero packing in it.
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these were both repacked in water with NO INCREASE in ingress of water during procedure when the glands were wide open for installation of packing.

yes my first experience with this problem was not fun--was scary--but is doable in water without sinking your boat. just remember--my boat is bigger and heavier and will sink faster than your clb.....:eek:
 

kenn

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Apr 18, 2009
1,271
CL Sandpiper 565 Toronto
...I've found that it may be difficult to remove/pick out ALL of the old packing material and that is a must. I use a pair of small needle nosed pliers and/or 3" dry wall screws to get all the old material out.
If you're going to service your own stuffing box, you really should have a packing hook, obtainable where you buy the packing. They're cheap, but just about indispensable for easily snagging the packing and pulling it out, right to that last little bit.

If you have a stuffing box, and you want to be prepared for the possibility of an in-water replacement, it would be worth the small material expense to replace the packing once, out of the water, as part of your spring prep, ideally with an experienced friend supervising. It's not hard, but it really helps to have done it right once, before you try it on-water.
 
Oct 10, 2011
619
Tartan 34C Toms River, New Jersey
There is really absolutely NO need to do this. Just wrap a plastic bag around the stern tube while you're doing the packing. INside. :)
I checked out the site you referred me to and mine seems to be a little different. The lock nut is about the same size as the nut that holds the packing. I tried to break it loose but had no luck. I'll try again with larger wrenches. Any helpful hints?:bang:
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,354
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Knock the flat on the lock nut with a hammer. Also try some PB Blaster. I'm sure others have other ideas and in more detail, I've seen them posted on this forum. It's a repetitive question.
 
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