Selling my Catalina 22 MKII - Precautions?

shemandr · Jun 29, 2019

"You get your lake trial after I have your money" - or most of it.

StargazerP303 · Jun 29, 2019

I agree, let them see for free, but before sea trial,, 10% deposit and upon completing the closing it will be given towards purchase payoff.

Roland5048 · Jun 29, 2019

I agree with the above responses, however, how are they going to do a sea trial without coming to the boat? I'm seeing SCAM.

shemandr · Jun 29, 2019

When I listed my boat on eBay I got at least 3 scams to every legit buyer - and a number of them were just trying to get something for nothing hoping they can resell it at a profit. I wouldn't even respond to anyone who didn't want to see the boat, or send an agent to look at the boat. Too busy at work? You don't have time for boating! Want to pay less? Look at the boat and make an offer.

Gene Neill · Jun 29, 2019

catalanc said:
Anyway, with that said, what conditions would you all take when someone is genuinely interested, especially with regards to an on the water "lake trial"?

Is the boat in a slip, or is it on a trailer at your house?

Meriachee · Jun 29, 2019

Best one yet - is there room at the boat for a container to load it into.

agprice22 · Jun 29, 2019

Look... it is a 22 ft boat... sea trials are bull¥%#}.
Someone who is willing to come, look, and buy., that is who you want. If you need to launch it for a BUYER, that is ok. Scammers will NOT come see the boat because they are in AFRICA!

rgranger · Jun 29, 2019

A real sailor will want a trial. How else can you know if the sails are blown?

Grotto · Jun 30, 2019

rgranger said:
A real sailor will want a trial. How else can you know if the sails are blown?

I always assume the sails are blown unless it says something like new sails 2017.

jssailem · Jun 30, 2019

I sold my 15 Montgomery to a fellow who lived 400 miles from me. He contacted me initially by email. We exchanged phone numbers. We talked a couple of times and I sent him pictures of the boat that included time stamp evidence so he could know the images were current not something I took 8 years ago. I had the sails raised and the boat on the water. He asked specific questions and I forwarded photos of those issues.
He sent me 50 percent and I trailered the boat to a town halfway between us.
He was grinning like a kid in a candy store with a fist full of dollar bills.
We sat in the boat on the trailer for about 30 minutes. I offered to take him sailing. “No need I want it”. We did the paperwork, he had cash for the other 50% and he took off for home with that same grin.

It took about 6 months to get to that point. I was in no hurry. I filtered/discarded a lot of spam contacts along the way.

agprice22 · Jun 30, 2019

rgranger said:
A real sailor will want a trial. How else can you know if the sails are blown?

You assume the sails are blown.

Crazy Dave Condon · Jun 30, 2019

Any boat being considered for purchase by a buyer will often request a survey and the cost of the survey is born by the buyer. If that is a case, they are ligit.

As a dealer, I once advertised on Craig's List. I received a call from a number with a NY area code. He was willing to purchase the boat unseen for more than the advertised price demanding I send him a copy of the Title Work. First I requested an address so a bill of sale could be sent to him that would also require a notary which he did in Los Angeles. Although I smelled a rat, I sent that to him requiring a notary signature along with a deposit. Once the deposit cleared and funds in hand, a copy of the title work would be sent via mail certified with return receipt. Never heard back and as I thought, the bill of sale was returned.
If ever offered more than the asking price, copy of title work before any deposit, address different from area code of phone number seen, etc., then be very wary and walk away. Make sure if the deposit coming in also clears the bank as well before any copy of titles are sent.. If the buyer is concerned, there are third parties who collect the title work and money and send the titles to the buyer once the money clears.

peterbud · Jun 30, 2019

catalanc said:
Hello everyone,
I am selling my 1997 Catalina 22 MKII and posted it on Craigslist. I received an email of interest very quickly ... and certainly a scam; they are working long hours and cannot come see the boat, but willing to pay my price plus $50. Great deal!

Anyway, with that said, what conditions would you all take when someone is genuinely interested, especially with regards to an on the water "lake trial"?

Thanks for the input,
cec

Just sold an Oday 22 from craigslist. Ask for Us currency cash no bank checks or drafts. Of tyey arw legit or will not be a problem.

Gene Neill · Jun 30, 2019

catalanc said:
In a slip

Well, that certainly makes it easier. I'd take them out ... if I liked them, and I had the time, and/or thought they were 100% serious buyers.
The guy we bought Daydream from took us out without even being asked. He pretty much insisted on it. But then, we had spoken on the phone on at least three occasions, and he was well aware we had driven 300 miles and spent the night in a motel just to look at his boat.

Crazy Dave Condon · Jul 1, 2019

Folks, one time living in North Carolina, my wife got a phone call on her cell phone claiming to be her credit card company wanting to verify information. I told her to hang up and of course she got mad. I reminded her that her credit card company had the information already and they were scammers. Never occurred again.
In my early years as an adjuster calling a doctor about a fellow on workman's compensation asking about the patient's progress and if there was anything I could do to help him further, The doc who knew me pulled a report and said read paragraph 2 line three as an example. I did and then we spoke.
If anyone whom you do not know or trust as well, never give out any information. That includes those who call saying they are the IRS or someone like that. Even in a doctor's office, I will not allow the copying of my drivers liscense even though they cite the HIPPA law which of course they do not have a copy of the law. I will allow them to look to verify me holding it in my hand only, Then I add the first time I experienced ID theft was thanks to a doctor's office and leave it at that.

Unless there is a specific reason for request of any information, do not give it out so freely particularly when they want your credit card information or bank account.

Daveinet · Jul 1, 2019

OK, so the boat is in a slip, guy wants a sea trail, and you need an excuse to go sailing?? That does not compute to this sailor.

But truthfully, if the boat was on the hard, you can always do a yard sail. Raising the mast in the yard allows one to see the rigging, see the sails, and learn how to step the mast, all things I would assume anyone would want to know. My last boat that I sold, while the owner looked at the sails, he did not raise them. I told them they were likely original on a 30 year old boat, so the guy got no surprises. The owner did not put up the rigging, but I did have dated video of the boat under sail, so again, no surprises.
I'd suggest for what to expect really depends on how much money is involved. For a boat that is less than 5 grand, the buyer should not expect the seller to go significantly out of their way to accommodate. Its not much money, so that should govern the effort. If I were paying 10 grand + for a boat, sure I would want to see it sail, but I've bought 2 boats, neither of which I sailed first, both boats were less than $3K.

jssailem · Jul 1, 2019

In selling a boat you may have to let your creativity come into play.

People like to play. Engage that side and the experience can be less stressful.

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