[shrugs shoulders] Okay, then.Please don’t tell me that’s what the cleat is for right next to it.
If you're not going to cleat it, then you have to retain your hold on it. There are devices, however, that can adapt the winch to function as a self-tailing one. The one pictured below (i.e., the rubber donuts) can be found at the link below. I used these rubber adapters on the sheet winches of my Pearson 30 years ago. They work for self tailing and the groove is a functional "locking mechanism", but I always cleated the tail after getting the trim I wanted unless short tacking.The winches for the headsail on my Hunter 23.5 are not self tailing.
How do you keep the sheet from easing around the winch, when it’s in hard?
Please don’t tell me that’s what the cleat is for right next to it.
It's called a "jam cleat."On my H26 the cleats beside the winch have a jam feature under one of the horns ( don't know the technical term for this type of cleat) This allows me simply to wind the sheet around it once or twice without an overlay loop. This simplifies it to a one handed operation. Not ideal but it works. I would prefer a clam cleat arrangement.
Good idea about the Winchers, I used them very successfully on our C25 for the years between 87 and 98.and the groove is a functional "locking mechanism"
Worst things known to man.It's called a "jam cleat."
Stu,Good idea about the Winchers, I used them very successfully on our C25 for the years between 87 and 98.
However, this comment, oft repeated, is just plain wrong.
Those grooves do NOTHING. If you view the picture posted, the line winds up beneath the lip and stays there. I never had cleats and never had to tie the end of the line off on anything.
I highly recommend the Winchers, just RTFM (Brian, F stands for funny) and use them properly.
I'll second that. Never had a problem with mine. Of course, you should never use them as dock cleats or for securing an anchor rode, tender painter, or in any situation where you are going to leave the line tied for any good length of time.Loves me my jam cleats. A flick of the wrist is about all it takes to release them, provided your sheets are correctly sized for the cleat, or vice-versa.
KG, I understand and have seen that a gazillion times.Stu,
From the website at the link posted:
"Cleating...
To cleat, lock sheet into ribbed groove."
Not that I ever used it that way myself-- but it's evidently a function of the design.
This might be difficult if it's on the coachroof, since you don't have a lot of room to mount the cam with the line coming off the top of the winch.If anyone has mounting a Cam Cleat, where and how would be appreciated.
...or in any situation where you are going to need to use the line in a hurry if it's jammed in the damned jam cleat.I'll second that. Never had a problem with mine. Of course, you should never use them as dock cleats or for securing an anchor rode, tender painter, or in any situation where you are going to leave the line tied for any good length of time.