Seeking winter framework advise

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Joe A.

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Mar 22, 2010
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Ericson 26-2 Cleveland
I need some advise on building a framework to support the tarp(s) over my Ericson 26. The boat is new to me but I consider myself pretty experienced on the subject because I have built a bow to stern 2x4 wood ridge on my two previous smaller day sailers but I don't want to reinvent the wheel if anyone can steer me in the right direction on this bigger boat. I envision a two piece ridge but I need to know the best way to support it. In the past I have crisscrossed the boat with several closely spaced light cords that have done an excellent job supporting the tarp under some pretty deep snow conditions. I know I shouldn't put any tarp/snow weight on the stanctions but I have'nt quite visulized the setup yet. I've read up on the costeffectivness of shrink wrap and custom covers and I believe building my own setup (and discarding the cheapo tarps yearly) is way to go. Also, PVC has been mentioned but is it strong enough?

Thanks!
Joe A. on the south shore of L. Erie.
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
Not a clue

I don't have a clue about covering a boat for winter storage. Move south and you won't either. Down here we can usually sail about 11 months a year.
 

hman

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Sep 13, 2006
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Oday 23 Grass Valley, CA
I've used a PVC frame successfully for the last few years. I use wire ties to hold the base pipes to the stanchions with about 6 inches of pipe above them, then over to the centerline above the mast. I use a 3 way to connect to the centerline, so that there is a "foot" going down to the mast which is attached to the bow pulpit and the stern rails to take some of the weight.

I'm pulling the boat out today, but will leave it on the trailer at the lake until the weather turns bad, I'll take some pictures when I put it away for the winter and post them.
 
Sep 25, 2008
7,695
Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
Hope you get some constructive feedback...
In my case, we used to have an E27 and never bothered with a frame for the cover. Just used the boom as a support from the mast aft (presumes you keep the stick up) which is equivalent to a boom tent and ran our spin pole from the mast fwd as the support for the bow area cover.
 
Dec 12, 2009
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Cheoy Lee Wittholtz 53' Portsmouth, RI
This response may be too late to be helpful to you this season, but I've just constructed a frame for my Cheoy Lee '53 out of 1" PVC. This is a new boat to us, and it was always stored indoors in the past, so therefore was never covered. I plan to make my own canvas winter cover in the future, but we decided to have it shrinkwrapped this first year, and we were told by the marina staff they'd give us a discount on the shrink wrapping if we made our own frame. I wanted a frame that would be beefy enough for when we have the canvas cover as well.
The 1" PVC seems hefty enough when the ribs are spaced closely enough together. We spaced ours about 5 feet apart. We incorproated two bow-to-stern lines of PVC pipes on each side - the lower of which was an inch or so above the upper lifeline, and used PVC 4-way and T connectors throughout. Instead of PVC glue, we used tap screws to hold the PVC pipes in the connectors so that they can easily be taken apart in the spring. (We wished we'd thought to use some kind of lubricant in the joints, as those pipes can really get jammed in those connectors!)
The PVC framing supplies were pricey (about $300 for our boat) but we figured we'd get many years use out of it. Got lots of great feedback from folks at the marina admiring our work. I have to say, it really did come out well!
On our previous boat - a 30' S-2 - we successfullly constructed a nice frame out of a PVC-like electrical conduit piping. The main advantage - other than the much cheaper cost - was not needing connectors between the pipes for much of it, as the pipes come with one flared end to accept the insert of the next pipe (much like vacuum cleaner hose extentions). Also the conduit pipes are flexible, and therefore can be bowed into arched ribs. We dirilled holes through a one 2" PVC pipe that we used as a ridge pole, and passed the conduit pipes through the holes - one hole for each rib - to keep them all in formation and for sturdiness. Then we used baling twine between each of the bowed ribs - about 4 passes from bow to stern on each side about 2.5' apart - to keep the tarps from sagging between the ribs with the weight of any collected snow. That worked well for us for several years. The ends of the ribs we attached to the toe rail by drilling a hole large enough to pass a nylon electircal wire tie through. We then attached the wire tie to the toe rail. (The S-2 had multiple holes all along the metal toe rail that made this easy to do.) The conduit piping would not have been beefy enough to support either a shrink wrap plastic or canvas cover over the much larger deck space of the Cheoy Lee, with it's 14.5 beam, however. That why we went instead with the PVC for choice of frame material for the new boat.
Hope this helps someone.
 
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Oct 2, 2006
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Jboat J24 commack


I have found a cedar deck board to be my favorite as its light and strong and can be reused for 15 years :)

I just set up a single board down the center of the boat with 2 x 4 supports at distance X and stablize the wood with well placed rope to the dock cleats

When i place the tarps you have to use ALL the holes and pull it very tight with a rope on each hole to allow easy adjustment

The DOWN SIDE is tarp chafe on the topside paint if you allow any flaping at ALL

We get good snows and mnay 60 MPH wind storms
 
May 16, 2007
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- - C350, Ontario, Canada
I use my mast as the ridge (2 wooden cradles support the mast on deck), take out the lifelines, poke the stanchions through the plastic and shrink wrap the boat. Plastic is $100 a year plus half a tank of propane for a 35' boat.
 

pogo2

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Sep 26, 2008
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Newport 30 Mklll North Tonawanda, NY
customframe

this is a custom made frame you can make yourself and have for years to come. its a nice feature when you go to sell the boat. its made from 3/4 galvinized tubing, iuse to use 3/4 pvc but this is better.
 

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Nov 9, 2008
1,338
Pearson-O'Day 290 Portland Maine
I use 24" long 1" PVC pipe tied to the toe rail every 24" +/- and glued to PVC to make essentially a rail all around the boat.. Then 1" PVC bowed over the mast and tied to the perimeter PVC centered on the verticals. Last, I have the compulsory blue tarp, locally known as a "Mah-den's Speshial, yessuh", tailored to fit the frame.On occasion, I have had to climb on deck and push 18" of snow off onto my now ticked-off teen. Might as well give him a reason!
 
Feb 15, 2010
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Lancer 30' 1985 great neck, n.y.
Again may be to late to help, but this pvc frame is a fast assemble/dissemble and holds up to winter winds and snow
For years I went the blue tarp route with water and ice
collecting if I did not get it set up just right....over the years
I refined a home made PVC frame and then went for a custom
cover...that weighed almost 70 lbs...until I had it cut in half to
enable mast to be left up and cut cover weight so I could still handle alone...nice and warm in winter...if sun is out I can work in shirt sleeves...not as expensive as one would think if boat is
kept over a number of years...pictures if I remember how




 
Sep 25, 2008
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Oday 25 Gibraltar
And here's mine-








2" PVC that knocks apart for storage. Easy setup. I used 2x2 lumber in the ridgepole for stiffness. 2 doors for ventilation. Plenty of light. Cozy even on winter days and standing headroom on deck for winter projects.

Rich
 
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