Don't let this happen to you! Use good dock lines and learn to secure them properly. The damage shown happened when my neighbors stern line gave way during a storm. Apparently the boats were together overnight. The damage is unreal! My C-22 was near the end of a 10 month restoration ....and now this. Please check your dock lines....And your neighbor's lines as well.
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sorry
Sorry to see your baby in such a state. Good luck with the neighbor and insurance companies. :{ Herb
Sorry to see your baby in such a state. Good luck with the neighbor and insurance companies. :{ Herb
good advice
Sometimes we forget the simple stuff amidst all the other details of boating. Sorry yours got banged up, but thanks for reminding all of us to be careful.
Sometimes we forget the simple stuff amidst all the other details of boating. Sorry yours got banged up, but thanks for reminding all of us to be careful.
Tieing-up someone else's boat
Jazzman: I'm really sorry to see your photo, but thanks for sharing it with us. We all hope that things work out well for you. Please be sure to let us know how the insurance works-out relative to getting your boat repaired. Does the other guy have insurance on his boat? Will it pay for your damage, even though he wasn't "operating" his boat at the time the damage was done to yours? Your photo reminds me of a situation that I had a few years ago. Someone put a old junk sailboat into the slip beside mine, and tied it up with junk lines. I didn't like the way it was tied-up, so I added another line to the bow of his boat, to keep it away from mine in case the one that he used broke. My wife thought that I was nuts at the time, but she usually thinks that I'm nuts now most of the time. (We've been married for a few more years now). I just felt that I couldn't risk having his boat come loose and wreck mine, and I didn't think that asking the people who run the marina to address the issue was the route to go, so I just took an old line that I had and cleated it onto the boat. I know that I wouldn't appreciate anyone coming onto my boat without an invitation and adding lines to it, but I felt that I had no choice. I'm open for comments, Aldo
Jazzman: I'm really sorry to see your photo, but thanks for sharing it with us. We all hope that things work out well for you. Please be sure to let us know how the insurance works-out relative to getting your boat repaired. Does the other guy have insurance on his boat? Will it pay for your damage, even though he wasn't "operating" his boat at the time the damage was done to yours? Your photo reminds me of a situation that I had a few years ago. Someone put a old junk sailboat into the slip beside mine, and tied it up with junk lines. I didn't like the way it was tied-up, so I added another line to the bow of his boat, to keep it away from mine in case the one that he used broke. My wife thought that I was nuts at the time, but she usually thinks that I'm nuts now most of the time. (We've been married for a few more years now). I just felt that I couldn't risk having his boat come loose and wreck mine, and I didn't think that asking the people who run the marina to address the issue was the route to go, so I just took an old line that I had and cleated it onto the boat. I know that I wouldn't appreciate anyone coming onto my boat without an invitation and adding lines to it, but I felt that I had no choice. I'm open for comments, Aldo
Good move Aldo
Aldo, I think you were OK in adding a line to your neighbor's boat. While I can see the opposite view, still we are each ultimately responsible for the well being of our boats. You took a prudent move which didn't cause any harm to the other boat but that protected yours. The alternative is to worry about it or worse case have the boat break loose and damage yours. As I get older I believe more that if you feel that something should be done then you should do it as long as it doesn't harm someone else. As for your wife thinking you are nuts, well, welcome to the club! ;-) Randy
Aldo, I think you were OK in adding a line to your neighbor's boat. While I can see the opposite view, still we are each ultimately responsible for the well being of our boats. You took a prudent move which didn't cause any harm to the other boat but that protected yours. The alternative is to worry about it or worse case have the boat break loose and damage yours. As I get older I believe more that if you feel that something should be done then you should do it as long as it doesn't harm someone else. As for your wife thinking you are nuts, well, welcome to the club! ;-) Randy
Insurance wars
The other boat is insured by State Farm and their adjuster believes his client isn't responsible because the dock is not properly secured to the bottom. His theory is that if the dock was more stable, the boat would never have broken loose. I reminded him that were 32 other boats on that pier that remained secure...same storm...same pier. He then switched tactics to the 'act of God' defense. I question his credibility because he never removed the tarp I secured over the damaged area when he inspected the boat. So...he really hasn't actually seen the damage. If anyone can help with any info on specs for proper dock lines I could really use it. As for the damage...everyone seems to think I should start shopping for another boat. Comments and suggestions welcome.
The other boat is insured by State Farm and their adjuster believes his client isn't responsible because the dock is not properly secured to the bottom. His theory is that if the dock was more stable, the boat would never have broken loose. I reminded him that were 32 other boats on that pier that remained secure...same storm...same pier. He then switched tactics to the 'act of God' defense. I question his credibility because he never removed the tarp I secured over the damaged area when he inspected the boat. So...he really hasn't actually seen the damage. If anyone can help with any info on specs for proper dock lines I could really use it. As for the damage...everyone seems to think I should start shopping for another boat. Comments and suggestions welcome.
Marina management... *zzz
Oh yeah I almost forgot; The marina waited 48 hours to notify me of the accident and did nothing to prevent further damage to my boat. The boats were actually separated by another boat owner who notified the marina the following morning. Go figure... This is my first experience with a marina. I gotta say that I'm leaning toward a small trailerable that can be rigged quickly. I would be afraid to leave a boat in the water now.
Oh yeah I almost forgot; The marina waited 48 hours to notify me of the accident and did nothing to prevent further damage to my boat. The boats were actually separated by another boat owner who notified the marina the following morning. Go figure... This is my first experience with a marina. I gotta say that I'm leaning toward a small trailerable that can be rigged quickly. I would be afraid to leave a boat in the water now.
Don't accept "no"
I wouldn't give up on having your boat in the water, maybe just switch marinas if needed. As for the damage I would let the other boat owner know that you will be filing claims against them in court. Get the name and address of the good samaritan who finally seperated the boats so that he can be prepared to write a statement or testify. If you don't want to spend much file in small claims court. Otherwise get an attorney and go for it. The owner can and will then put the heat on Allstate. Don't let time go by, be assertive now. Also, let your insurer know about this and they will help out in order to avoid having to pay for the damage themselves. Good luck. Randy
I wouldn't give up on having your boat in the water, maybe just switch marinas if needed. As for the damage I would let the other boat owner know that you will be filing claims against them in court. Get the name and address of the good samaritan who finally seperated the boats so that he can be prepared to write a statement or testify. If you don't want to spend much file in small claims court. Otherwise get an attorney and go for it. The owner can and will then put the heat on Allstate. Don't let time go by, be assertive now. Also, let your insurer know about this and they will help out in order to avoid having to pay for the damage themselves. Good luck. Randy
marina
What marina is it that your using, I live in the area and so far I want to aviod this one! State Farm and Alstate here will do everything possible to get out of paying, I'd let your carrier know what's going on, get them involved. there, there to help you.
What marina is it that your using, I live in the area and so far I want to aviod this one! State Farm and Alstate here will do everything possible to get out of paying, I'd let your carrier know what's going on, get them involved. there, there to help you.
Living in boat hell.... *666
Well....I still need to get out of a newly signed lease if my boat is totaled...and I'm reluctant to name the place in case this all ends up in court based on the improperly secured docks...that said..its the marina near the dam.
Well....I still need to get out of a newly signed lease if my boat is totaled...and I'm reluctant to name the place in case this all ends up in court based on the improperly secured docks...that said..its the marina near the dam.
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